RE: BOV

From: Michael Fossler Date: September 22, 2004 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: Michael.J.Fossler@gsk.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] BOV Date: Wed, September 22, 2004 1:19 pm Can we clarify what is meant by "occasion"? In Yaning's example, occasion (as I understand it - a point in time when some measurement is made) is confounded by site (in other words, hospital). Given Yaning's proposed experimental design, I don't think any model would be satisfactory, since there is no way to tease out the effect of site (hospital) from the effect of occasion. A better design would be i = subject (1-4) j = site (1-4) Sub1 Sub2 Sub3 Sub4 Occ1 CL11 CL22 CL33 CL44 Occ2 CL14 CL21 CL32 CL43 Occ3 CL13 CL24 CL31 CL42 Occ4 CL12 CL23 CL34 CL41 Mean CLavg1 CLavg2 CLavg3 CLavg4 Here site and occasion are no longer confounded, and a true BOV (controlled for site) could be estimated. Mike ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael J. Fossler, Pharm. D., Ph. D., F.C.P. Principal Clinical Pharmacokineticist Clinical Pharmacokinetics, Modeling & Simulation GlaxoSmithKline (610) 270 - 4797 FAX: (610) 270-5598 Cell: (443) 350-1194 Michael_J_Fossler@gsk.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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