Re: Problems with an apparent compiler-senstive model

From: Jeroen Elassaiss-Schaap Date: August 03, 2006 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: "Elassaiss - Schaap, J. (Jeroen)" jeroen.elassaiss@organon.com Subject: Re: [NMusers] Problems with an apparent compiler-senstive model Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:22:25 +0200 Mark, Your notion about autocorrelation is interesting. I have applied some aspects of autocorrelation - in linear cases - as part of my master's in the field of (neuro)electrophysiology. It is a useful concept in different ways but hardly ever applied in the (pop)PK-PD world. At PAGE 2006 one poster was presented that dealt with it: http://www.page-meeting.org/?abstract=933# ; Davidian & Giltinan furthermore discuss several examples treating autocorrelation problems. The latter also express a number of cautions regarding estimation of autocorrelation parameters (e.g. p133 of the CRC reprint 1998; indomethacin PK example). I am not aware of any other non-linear analyses incorporating autocorrelation. One obviously might take signs of autocorrelation as a cue to investigate its root cause rather than try to model it. Anyway, specific graphical analysis is needed to start with before it might be picked up at all. And I confess that I have never attempted to go there; I also would not know what kind of plot to make: observations or residuals, separate plots or phase plot, lagged or time-shifted/smooth_or_model-based, which combinations thereof. Another note: autocorrelation can also be used to correct for oversampling, essentially decreasing the degrees of freedom. Regarding the point you make about autocorrelation in the context of rounding errors, can you provide some more details or examples? I would have assumed (wihtout any first-hand experience) that severe problems arise with indirect PD behaviour in combination with second- or higher-order autocorrelation, i.e. irregular oscillations in the same frequency domain. Excuse me for drifting way of topic. Best regards, Jeroen
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