FW: FW: simulation problem or bug
On 5/25/2011 9:43 PM, Bauer, Robert wrote:
> Leonid:
> Tom reminded me of our solution, shown below, which you have indeed
> experienced with the more verbose error message in nm7.2. NONMEM's
> classic design regarding MSF is that everything from the analysis is
> captured has to be just right to be able to carry on with it in
another
> analysis. Stuart Beal was very conservative about these things. Over
> time we have to go back and determine which errors from MSF can
actually
> be ignored so the user may continue to use the result.
>
>
> Robert J. Bauer, Ph.D.
> Vice President, Pharmacometrics
> ICON Development Solutions
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ludden, Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:46 PM
> To: Bauer, Robert
> Subject: FW: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug
>
> Bob:
>
> Leonid's most recent e-mail reminded me that the "fix" for 7.2 was to
> give a more informative error message. It was too late in development
> to make code changes. In Leonid's case I think the rounding error is
> the real problem.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ludden, Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:26 AM
> To: Bauer, Robert
> Subject: FW: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug
>
> Bob:
>
> I should have added that I think this has been fixed in 7.2 and
possibly
> 7.1.2 as you suggest.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Bauer, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:59 PM
> To: Leonid Gibiansky; Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D
> Cc: nmusers
> Subject: RE: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug
>
> Leonid:
> Could you please try this problem also with NONMEM 7.1.2 and nonmem
> 7.2.0
>
>
> Robert J. Bauer, Ph.D.
> Vice President, Pharmacometrics
> ICON Development Solutions
> Tel: (215) 616-6428
> Mob: (925) 286-0769
> Email: [email protected]
> Web: www.icondevsolutions.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Leonid Gibiansky
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:35 AM
> To: Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D
> Cc: nmusers
> Subject: Re: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug
>
> Matt,
> I was able to specify parameters explicitly and run simulations. So
my
>
> immediate problem is solved. I am still unsure what is the problem
with
> the MSF run.
> Thanks
> Leonid
>
> --------------------------------------
> Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D.
> President, QuantPharm LLC
> web: www.quantpharm.com
> e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com
> tel: (301) 767 5566
>
>
>
>
> On 5/24/2011 9:14 AM, Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D wrote:
>> Leonid,
>>
>> I am unsure why this occurs. I would try the following though:
>>
>> - Change the seed number
>> - Rerun another control stream linked to the MSF output by the
model
> and change the SIGDIG to match the number of significant digits
obtained
> from your model and run MAXEVAL=0 to create a MSF to run the
simulation
> from. (If you run your simulation in this manner)
>> - Specify the parameters explicitly, and then run the simulation.
>> - Run the simulation in another version of NONMEM
>>
>> Otherwise I'm out of ideas.
>>
>> Matt.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Leonid Gibiansky
>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 3:27 PM
>> To: nmusers
>> Subject: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug
>>
>> Dear All,
>> I am trying to run simulations starting from the msf file (nm 7.1).
>> I've done it multiple times for the current project without any
>> problems. BUT for one specific problem, I see a very strange
behavior:
>> The simulation script runs just fine with SUBPROBLEMS=0 option, but
>> fails with any other value (including 1) with the following error:
>>
>> 0MULTIPLE SUB_PROBLEMS IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OTHER INFORMATION
>> IN THE CONTROL STREAM AND INPUT MSF
>>
>> I am not sure whether it is important but the original run completed
>> with 134 (rounding error) estimation error and successful covariance
>> step (with UNCONDITIONAL option)
>>
>> Any ideas of what is the problem?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Leonid
>>
>> --
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>> President, QuantPharm LLC
>> web: www.quantpharm.com
>> e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com
>> tel: (301) 767 5566
>>
>>
>>
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