FW: FW: simulation problem or bug

From: Robert Bauer Date: May 26, 2011 technical Source: mail-archive.com
On 5/25/2011 9:43 PM, Bauer, Robert wrote: > Leonid: > Tom reminded me of our solution, shown below, which you have indeed > experienced with the more verbose error message in nm7.2. NONMEM's > classic design regarding MSF is that everything from the analysis is > captured has to be just right to be able to carry on with it in another > analysis. Stuart Beal was very conservative about these things. Over > time we have to go back and determine which errors from MSF can actually > be ignored so the user may continue to use the result. > > > Robert J. Bauer, Ph.D. > Vice President, Pharmacometrics > ICON Development Solutions > Tel: (215) 616-6428 > Mob: (925) 286-0769 > Email: [email protected] > Web: www.icondevsolutions.com > >
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Ludden, Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:46 PM > To: Bauer, Robert > Subject: FW: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug > > Bob: > > Leonid's most recent e-mail reminded me that the "fix" for 7.2 was to > give a more informative error message. It was too late in development > to make code changes. In Leonid's case I think the rounding error is > the real problem. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ludden, Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:26 AM > To: Bauer, Robert > Subject: FW: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug > > Bob: > > I should have added that I think this has been fixed in 7.2 and possibly > 7.1.2 as you suggest. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bauer, Robert > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:59 PM > To: Leonid Gibiansky; Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D > Cc: nmusers > Subject: RE: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug > > Leonid: > Could you please try this problem also with NONMEM 7.1.2 and nonmem > 7.2.0 > > > Robert J. Bauer, Ph.D. > Vice President, Pharmacometrics > ICON Development Solutions > Tel: (215) 616-6428 > Mob: (925) 286-0769 > Email: [email protected] > Web: www.icondevsolutions.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Leonid Gibiansky > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:35 AM > To: Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D > Cc: nmusers > Subject: Re: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug > > Matt, > I was able to specify parameters explicitly and run simulations. So my > > immediate problem is solved. I am still unsure what is the problem with > the MSF run. > Thanks > Leonid > > -------------------------------------- > Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D. > President, QuantPharm LLC > web: www.quantpharm.com > e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com > tel: (301) 767 5566 > > > > > On 5/24/2011 9:14 AM, Fidler,Matt,FORT WORTH,R&D wrote: >> Leonid, >> >> I am unsure why this occurs. I would try the following though: >> >> - Change the seed number >> - Rerun another control stream linked to the MSF output by the model > and change the SIGDIG to match the number of significant digits obtained > from your model and run MAXEVAL=0 to create a MSF to run the simulation > from. (If you run your simulation in this manner) >> - Specify the parameters explicitly, and then run the simulation. >> - Run the simulation in another version of NONMEM >> >> Otherwise I'm out of ideas. >> >> Matt. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Leonid Gibiansky >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 3:27 PM >> To: nmusers >> Subject: [NMusers] simulation problem or bug >> >> Dear All, >> I am trying to run simulations starting from the msf file (nm 7.1). >> I've done it multiple times for the current project without any >> problems. BUT for one specific problem, I see a very strange behavior: >> The simulation script runs just fine with SUBPROBLEMS=0 option, but >> fails with any other value (including 1) with the following error: >> >> 0MULTIPLE SUB_PROBLEMS IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OTHER INFORMATION >> IN THE CONTROL STREAM AND INPUT MSF >> >> I am not sure whether it is important but the original run completed >> with 134 (rounding error) estimation error and successful covariance >> step (with UNCONDITIONAL option) >> >> Any ideas of what is the problem? >> >> Thanks! >> Leonid >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------- >> Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D. >> President, QuantPharm LLC >> web: www.quantpharm.com >> e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com >> tel: (301) 767 5566 >> >> >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient or an > authorized representative of an intended recipient, you are prohibited > from using, copying or distributing the information in this e-mail or > its attachments. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies of > this message and any attachments. >> >> Thank you. >> >
May 23, 2011 Leonid Gibiansky simulation problem or bug
May 24, 2011 Matt Fidler RE: simulation problem or bug
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May 25, 2011 Robert Bauer RE: simulation problem or bug
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