Re: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK

From: Lewis B. Sheiner Date: October 07, 2002 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From:"Lewis B. Sheiner" Subject:Re: [NMusers] OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK Date:Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:16:33 -0700 So, we converge: 'Science' is to be used to supply what the current data do not, but science is to be based on empirical evidence. Unlike Ken, I'm not generally inclined to demand the data on which the domain expert's opinion rests (I'd not likely understand it's implications fully, not being a domain expert myself), but I'm glad someone is checking ... I, too, can't leave this without 2 last quibbles: 1. I was not defending fixing the corr to .5, although I do agree with Nick that if you have to fix it to something (e.g., because it's too technically demanding to use a full Bayesian framework), for CL and V that is, I'd bet .5 is closer to truth than either 0 or 1 (that's me being a domain expert). 2. More importantly, though, it is, in my view, MORE 'hyper-subjective' to fix a parameter to a sharp value (ANY sharp value, 0, 1, .5, ...other) lacking empirical support than it is to specify a non-degenerate distribution for it (also lacking such support). I'll repeat my main message another way: THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF THE ILL-POSED INVERSE PROBLEM-- REPEAT, NO WAY OUT -- THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE UNTESTABLE ON THE CURRENT DATA. Which, to reassure Ken, is not to say that this releases us from an obligation to be careful about those assumptions, question the data on which they are based, etc., etc. LBS.
Oct 02, 2002 Stephen Duffull OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
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Oct 06, 2002 Stephen Duffull RE: FW: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
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Oct 07, 2002 Kenneth Kowalski RE: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
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Oct 08, 2002 Leonid Gibiansky Re: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
Oct 08, 2002 Serge Guzy RE: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
Oct 08, 2002 Serge Guzy RE: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
Oct 08, 2002 Lewis B. Sheiner Re: OMEGA HAS A NONZERO BLOCK
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