RE: $OMEGA blocks and log-likelihood profiling

From: Kenneth Kowalski Date: June 10, 2004 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: "Kowalski, Ken" Ken.Kowalski@pfizer.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] $OMEGA blocks and log-likelihood profiling Date: Thu, June 10, 2004 5:14 pm Nick, As I indicated in a previous message I don't typically run bootstraps with $COV. I really don't see the value in summarizing the bootstrap results with/without a successful COV step. The issue is the high convergence failure rate and whether or not you can use the estimates from the failed runs to provide valid inference via the empirical distribution generated from your bootstrap samples. The COV step only comes into play as a diagnostic to provide insight into why you are getting such a high convergence failure rate. Ideally, closer attention to the COV step output during model building to guide model selection may help to avoid the high convergence failure rate when performing bootstrapping. In the past you have indicated that you would much rather just go right into bootstrapping rather than take the time to get a successful COV step and review this output for ill-conditioning during model building. That's fine, but then you are more likely to encounter the problem of a high convergence failure rate during bootstrapping. In which case you have more work on the back end to verify that these failed runs can still be used to provide valid inference regarding the uncertainty in the parameters. You may be fine with your one example, but in general its a slippery slope to be on and each case where you have a high convergence failure rate the burden will be on you to verify that the empirical distributions for the failed and successful runs are unchanged before pooling them. If you had a successful COV step from your model fit on the original dataset, which suggested that your model was stable, and you ended up with >90% successful convergence in your bootstrap runs, then I couldn't care less whether you even ran the COV step for the bootstrap runs. Ken
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