Dear NM users
I am running an extravascular pop PK model with dual absorption and got the
following message from NM:
[cid:[email protected]]
Has anyone experienced the same issue and how to fix it?
Thank you in advance for your help
Marie
NONMEM and Bioavailability fraction
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Latest: Mar 11, 2025
Hi Marie,
The message "PK PARAMETER FOR BIOAVAILABILITY FRACTION IS NEGATIVE" indicates
the source of your issue, but it can be misleading as NONMEM can also report
this error message if the bioavailability parameter is 0.
I would suggest that you look at the parameterization of your bioavailability
parameter (F1, F2, etc...) and check if the value can be set to 0 or negative
values (particularly if you have an IIV term on it)... Maybe share your full
model code if you are not sure how to fix the issue.
Sebastien
Regeneron - Internal
Regeneron - Internal
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Subject: [External] [NMusers] NONMEM and Bioavailability fraction
Dear NM users I am running an extravascular pop PK model with dual absorption
and got the following message from NM: Has anyone experienced the same issue
and how to fix it? Thank you in advance for your help Marie
Dear NM users
I am running an extravascular pop PK model with dual absorption and got the
following message from NM:
[cid:[email protected]]
Has anyone experienced the same issue and how to fix it?
Thank you in advance for your help
Marie
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Dear Marie,
You might want to share a snippet of your control stream for further help.
You may want to set a lower boundary of 0 for your estimate of F in the $THETA
block and if you allow inter-individual variability, you may want to do a logit
transformation of your bioavailability parameter and its variability, to
constrain the value between 0-1.
Sincerely,
Rob
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Onderwerp: [NMusers] RE: NONMEM and Bioavailability fraction
Dear NM users
I am running an extravascular pop PK model with dual absorption and got the
following message from NM:
[cid:[email protected]]
Has anyone experienced the same issue and how to fix it?
Thank you in advance for your help
Marie
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To avoid negative F, you can use logit transformation to define F.
may need to show your nm code to understand the problem.
Sam
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> On 03/11/2025 6:39 AM PDT Marie Rajerison <
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> [email protected]
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> > wrote:
>
> Dear NM users
>
> I am running an extravascular pop PK model with dual absorption and got the following message from NM:
>
> Has anyone experienced the same issue and how to fix it?
>
> Thank you in advance for your help
>
> Marie
Not the same issue, but issues of a similar nature.
Most of the time, it is due to a discrepancy between the model structure and
the dataset.
Among ChatGPT's suggestions below, and I would bet on #1 (relative F between
the two formulations not defined correctly):
1. Bioavailability Fraction Parameter: Ensure that the bioavailability
fraction (F) parameter is correctly defined in the $PK record. A negative value
might indicate an issue with how the parameter is calculated or defined in the
model.
2. Dataset Errors: Verify that your dataset is correctly formatted.
Non-numeric cells, NA values, and unsorted time columns can cause errors in
NONMEM. Ensure that all cells in the dataset are numeric and properly formatted.
3. Additional Parameters: Check the additional parameters in your model,
such as absorption lag time, relative bioavailability fraction, rate parameter
for zero-order input, duration parameter of that input, and scaling parameter.
Incorrect specification or estimation of these parameters can lead to errors.
Cheng
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Marie Rajerison
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2025 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [NMusers] RE: NONMEM and Bioavailability fraction
Dear NM users
I am running an extravascular pop PK model with dual absorption and got the
following message from NM:
[cid:[email protected]]
Has anyone experienced the same issue and how to fix it?
Thank you in advance for your help
Marie