Re: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data

From: Jeroen Elassaiss-Schaap Date: September 05, 2015 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Hi Jos, Leonid has a post on it from some time ago, where he shows code to do indeed linear interpolation. see http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/current/2008-January/4167.html See also some older thread that discusses more possibilities: http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/nm/99sep241996.html Anyway, it comes down to storing the current and previous concentration, calculating the slope and with these parameters, interpolate in the $DES block with T for time. Hope this helps, Jeroen -- http://pd-value.com [email protected] @PD_value +31 6 23118438 -- More value out of your data!
Quoted reply history
On 09/05/2015 08:44 PM, Lommerse, JPM (Jos) wrote: > > Dear Samer, > > > > Thank you for the reference. > > However, the method of Fuseau assumes > > that a mathematical description for > > the PK curve is available. > > > > I would like to do without such a PK description > > and directly use the PK observations, e.g. applying > > linear interpolation between the PK data points. > > Would that be feasible? > > > > Thanks, Jos > > > > *From:*Samer Mouksassi [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:34 PM > *To:* Lommerse, JPM (Jos); [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data > > > > > > Dear Jos, > > Please have a look at the algorithm detailed in the appendix of this > publication: > > Fuseau E, Sheiner LB. > > Simultaneous modeling of pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics with a > nonparametric pharmacodynamic model. > > Clin Pharmacol Ther. 1984 Jun;35(6):733-41. > > Regards, > > Samer > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lommerse, JPM (Jos) > *Sent:* Saturday, September 5, 2015 1:44 PM > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* [NMusers] Estimation of ke0 from raw data > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a data set containing PK concentrations and PD effect. > > When plotting PD as a function of PD a clear anti-clockwise hysteresis > > plot appears. > > I would like to get a (rough) estimate of the PD time delay w.r.t. the > PK without > > using a compartmental description for the observed PK, even not using > > a polynomal function that fits the PK. The assumption I make is that > > all PD delay can be explained by the delay through an effect compartment. > > I am wondering if methods exist that solely use the raw data to > > calculate such time delays. > > > > Thank you for any comment/suggestion, > > > > Jos > > > > *Jos Lommerse* > > Modeler Consultant > > /Quantitative Solutions BV/ > > /Molenweg 79/ > > /5349 AC Oss/ > > /The Netherlands/ > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > +31 412 211102 > > > > > > Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains > information of Merck & Co., Inc. (2000 Galloping Hill Road, Kenilworth, > New Jersey, USA 07033), and/or its affiliates Direct contact information > for affiliates is available at > http://www.merck.com/contact/contacts.html) that may be confidential, > proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are > not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, > please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from > your system. > > > > *NOTICE: *The information contained in this electronic mail message is > intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated > recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client > communication, may be protected by the work product doctrine, and may > be subject to a protective order. As such, this message is privileged > and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message > in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying > of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and > e-mail and destroy any and all copies of this message in your > possession (whether hard copies or electronically stored copies). > Thank you. > > > buSp9xeMeKEbrUze > > Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains > information of Merck & Co., Inc. (2000 Galloping Hill Road, Kenilworth, > New Jersey, USA 07033), and/or its affiliates Direct contact information > for affiliates is available at > http://www.merck.com/contact/contacts.html) that may be confidential, > proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely > for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are > not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, > please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from > your system. >
Sep 05, 2015 Jpm Lommerse Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 05, 2015 Mukul Re: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 05, 2015 Jeroen Elassaiss-Schaap Re: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 05, 2015 Leonid Gibiansky Re: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 05, 2015 Peter Bonate Re: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 05, 2015 Brian Sadler RE: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 08, 2015 Jpm Lommerse RE: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 14, 2015 J.h.proost Re: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data
Sep 14, 2015 Unknown Re: RE: Estimation of ke0 from raw data