RE: Reporting Modeling Results
Steve,
Retrospectively excluding treated subjects from an RCT is a basic
methodological error (no matter who does it). Doing so casts very
fundamental doubts on the reported results. However, if these 4
exclusions didn't in fact bias the results of your study, then your
conclusions may still be correct.
Did any adverse events occur in the 4 excluded subjects in the novel
treatment arm? This is all I wish to know.
Best regards, James
James G Wright PhD
Scientist
Wright Dose Ltd
Tel: 44 (0) 772 5636914
www.wright-dose.com
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-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Stephen Duffull
Sent: 29 October 2007 20:21
To: 'James G Wright'; 'nmusers'
Subject: RE: [NMusers] Reporting Modeling Results
James
I had hoped we would move on :-)
> As you are holding up this enoxaparin work as a generalizable example,
It is just a single example - there are many others.
> I think your bold claims merit at least a token
> challenge. When I review academic studies, the first thing I check for
> is patients who are excluded from the data analysis.
I am absolutely astounded that you consider academic studies in a more
critical light than industry driven studies. Shouldn't all studies be
taken on their merit - or are you suggesting that academic studies are
naturally flawed in some way?
> Did excluding these 4 subjects alter the results of the trial?
Simply the patients were removed before analysis. They did not meet
protocol requirements (e.g. some received unfractionated heparin).
It is my best belief that if we continued to recruit patients that we
would see the same signal as the trial found. The trial was adequately
powered so we are not expecting bias inherent in underpowered studies
(compare to the underpowered APPROVe study wrt CVS observations).
In addition, the purpose of this part of the thread, for me, was to show
that a) studies do arise in academic settings that improve patient care
[to respond to Mark's comments] and b) that simplifying the dosing on
the drug label to make the drug "easier to use" doesn't necessarily
result in better patient outcomes.
Regards
Steve
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