simulated negative concentration

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simulated negative concentration

From: Yaning Wang Date: February 14, 2003 technical
From:Yaning Wang Subject:[NMusers] simulated negative concentration Date:Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:17:49 -0500 Dear NM users: How can I prevent from simulating negative concentrations? My error model is Y=F(1+EPS(1))+EPS(2). How can I make sure that NONMEM will only simulate positive concentrations or, even more strictly, within an interval? An example will be highly appreciated. Thanks Yaning Wang Department of Pharmaceutics College of Pharmacy University of Florida

Re: simulated negative concentration

From: Nick Holford Date: February 14, 2003 technical
From:Nick Holford Subject:Re: [NMusers] simulated negative concentration Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:28:24 +1300 Here is an example showing how to truncate distributions for both residual error or parameter variability: $PROB THEOPHYLLINE PHARMACODYNAMICS $DATA ..\..\theopd.dat IGNORE # $INPUT ID TIME THEO AGE WT GEND RACE DIAG DV $SIM (20000625 NORMAL NEW) SUBPROBLEMS=2 $ESTIM PRINT=0 $THETA (0,150.,) ; E0 $THETA (0,200.,) ; EMAX $THETA (.001,10,) ; EC50 $OMEGA 0.5 ; CVE0 $OMEGA 0.5 ; CVEMAX $OMEGA 0.5 ; CVEC50 $SIGMA 100 ; SD 1 $PRED E0=E0*EXP(CVE0) EMAX=EMAX*EXP(CVEMAX) EC50=EC50*EXP(CVEC50) IF (ICALL.EQ.4) THEN ; simulation TRUNC=3.27 ; Z 2tailed alpha=0.01 i.e. include 99.9% TVE0=E0 E0=TVE0*EXP(CVE0) LNMU=LOG(TVE0) DLTA=TRUNC*0.717 ; MUST BE 3.27*SQRT(CVE0)! L0=EXP(LNMU-DLTA) H0=EXP(LNMU+DLTA) TVEMAX=EMAX EM=TVEMAX*EXP(CVEMAX) LNMU=LOG(TVEMAX) DLTA=TRUNC*0.717 ; MUST BE 3.27*SQRT(CVEMAX)! LM=EXP(LNMU-DLTA) HM=EXP(LNMU+DLTA) TVEC50=EC50 C5=TVEC50*EXP(CVEC50) LNMU=LOG(TVEC50) DLTA=TRUNC*0.717 ; MUST BE 3.27*SQRT(CVEC50)! L5=EXP(LNMU-DLTA) H5=EXP(LNMU+DLTA) DOWHILE(E0.LT.L0.OR.E0.GT.H0.OR.EM.LT.LM.OR.EM.GT.HM.OR.C5.LT.L5.OR.C5.GT.H5) CALL SIMETA(ETA) EMAX=TVEMAX*EXP(CVEMAX) E0=TVE0*EXP(CVE0) EC50=TVEC50*EXP(CVEC50) ENDDO ENDIF EFFECT=E0 + EM*THEO/(THEO+C5) Y = EFFECT + SD IF (ICALL.EQ.4) THEN ; simulation DOWHILE (Y.LT.0) CALL SIMEPS(EPS) Y=EFFECT + SD ENDDO ENDIF $TABLE ID TIME THEO AGE WT GEND RACE DIAG E0 EM C5 Y NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=theopd.fit -- Nick Holford, Divn Pharmacology & Clinical Pharmacology University of Auckland, 85 Park Rd, Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand email:n.holford@auckland.ac.nz tel:+64(9)373-7599x86730 fax:373-7556 http://www.health.auckland.ac.nz/pharmacology/staff/nholford/

RE: simulated negative concentration

From: Kenneth Kowalski Date: February 14, 2003 technical
From:"Kowalski, Ken" Subject: RE: [NMusers] simulated negative concentration Date:Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:13:52 -0500 Yaning, You must have a large SD for the additive component relative to F at low concentrations and/or a large CV for the proportional component. Note that truncating the concentrations with this error model does result in bias although it may be negligible (depending on the severity of the trucation that is required to avoid negative concentrations). You might consider refitting your data using a log-transform-both-sides approach which would restrict simulated concentrations to be positive. To do this you need to define the logarithm of the concentrations as your DV and use a statement like Y=LOG(F)+EPS(1). Of course you need to avoid situations where the model can predict F=0. Ken