Jeff,
Thanks for highlighting the time to event analysis terminology issue. I think
nmusers need to pay particular attention to a major difference between two
classes of methods.
1. The Cox proportional hazards model is a semiparametric method that is used
to describe the difference between treatments. It assumes the underlying hazard
for both treatments is the same.
2. Parametric methods (e.g. using the Weibull distribution) try to describe the
undelying hazard for each treatment and do not require the assumption that the
underlying hazard is the same.
The semiparametric method is somewhat similar to doing a bioequivalence
analysis with NCA. It can tell you about the difference between the two
formulations under the assumption that the clearance is the same but it doesnt
tell you the underlying PK parameters (clearance, volume, absorption rate
constant etc) and cannot make predictions of the time course of concentration.
The parametric time to event method describes the full hazard function but is
dependent on assuming a particular model -- just like assuming a specific
compartmental model and input function in compartmental PK.
As nmusers will appreciate, one can learn and understand much more from a
compartmental model than one can from doing a bioequivalence analysis. The
parametric approach does not require the restrictive assumption that the
underlying hazard is the same for both treatments (which is analogous to having
to assume clearance is the same for a bioequivalence analysis).
So it depends what you want -- if you just want to collect P values then use
the semiparametric method. But if you want to understand the biology of the
disease and the effects of drug treatments you need to seriously consider the
parametric method.
Nick
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> Liang - There are some examples of NONMEM code in the following link. I have
> used this in the past as a good starting point for specifying time-dependent
> hazard models.
>
> http://anesthesia.stanford.edu/pkpd/NONMEM%20Repository/
>
> A note on nomenclature, I always felt a bit confused about these models till
> I realized the level of ambiguity in the literature. The following words are
> often used in an apparent mosaic fashion to describe different analyses that
> are actually quite similar.
> Survival analysis
> Failure analysis
> Event modeling
> Hazard regression
> Cox proportional hazards model
> Cox model
> Proportional hazards model.
> Weibull (...or insert your favorite function here...) proportional hazards
> model
> Parametric proportional hazards models
> Semi-parametric proportional hazards models
> Cox regression
> Poisson regression, etc...
>
> For more check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_hazards_models
>
> Regards, Jeff
>
>
> "Nick Holford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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COX Proportional Hazard Model with Time DependentCovariate
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Nick,
I would argue that parametric survival models are dependent on the
"structural model" (Weibull, Exponential, Gompertz etc.) that you choose
for the hazard function and so suffer the same issues as standard PK
model building where the choice of covariates, error structures etc.
depend on the correct choice of hazard model. The choice of model is
still an assumption...
On the other hand my understanding of Proportional Hazards models is
that we don't necessarily care what the parametric form of the hazard
is. We assume that the hazards changes proportionately with changes in
the covariates (hence the name). Treatment, dose or exposure variable
could be a covariate and although it is usually added in a linear form
it doesn't have to. In many cases the form or "shape" of the hazard
function itself is a bit of a "nuisance variable" and what we want to
know is the influencing factors on survival rates. In this case the
proportional hazards model does just fine.
I'm hoping that your last paragraph was written at least partly
tongue-in-cheek... I would argue that if the range of parametric hazard
models you may have tried do not capture features in your data then you
may want to examine proportional hazards models. There's a fairly huge
statistical literature on these topics (and I have to confess I'm not an
expert by any means!).
A good reference book is by D. Collett: "Modelling Survival Data in
Medical Research", Chapman & Hall / CRC Press. 2003.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Modelling-Survival-Medical-Research-Statistical/
dp/1584883251/ref=pd_bowtega_3/026-9223339-1525240?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1
183564051&sr=1-3
Mike
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Subject: Re: [NMusers] COX Proportional Hazard Model with Time
DependentCovariate
Jeff,
<EDIT>
The parametric approach does not require the restrictive assumption that
the underlying hazard is the same for both treatments (which is
analogous to having to assume clearance is the same for a bioequivalence
analysis).
So it depends what you want -- if you just want to collect P values then
use the semiparametric method. But if you want to understand the biology
of the disease and the effects of drug treatments you need to seriously
consider the parametric method.
Nick