RE: COX Proportional Hazard Model with Time DependentCovariate

From: Mike K Smith Date: July 04, 2007 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Nick, I would argue that parametric survival models are dependent on the "structural model" (Weibull, Exponential, Gompertz etc.) that you choose for the hazard function and so suffer the same issues as standard PK model building where the choice of covariates, error structures etc. depend on the correct choice of hazard model. The choice of model is still an assumption... On the other hand my understanding of Proportional Hazards models is that we don't necessarily care what the parametric form of the hazard is. We assume that the hazards changes proportionately with changes in the covariates (hence the name). Treatment, dose or exposure variable could be a covariate and although it is usually added in a linear form it doesn't have to. In many cases the form or "shape" of the hazard function itself is a bit of a "nuisance variable" and what we want to know is the influencing factors on survival rates. In this case the proportional hazards model does just fine. I'm hoping that your last paragraph was written at least partly tongue-in-cheek... I would argue that if the range of parametric hazard models you may have tried do not capture features in your data then you may want to examine proportional hazards models. There's a fairly huge statistical literature on these topics (and I have to confess I'm not an expert by any means!). A good reference book is by D. Collett: "Modelling Survival Data in Medical Research", Chapman & Hall / CRC Press. 2003. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Modelling-Survival-Medical-Research-Statistical/ dp/1584883251/ref=pd_bowtega_3/026-9223339-1525240?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1 183564051&sr=1-3 Mike
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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Holford Sent: 03 July 2007 22:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMusers] COX Proportional Hazard Model with Time DependentCovariate Jeff, <EDIT> The parametric approach does not require the restrictive assumption that the underlying hazard is the same for both treatments (which is analogous to having to assume clearance is the same for a bioequivalence analysis). So it depends what you want -- if you just want to collect P values then use the semiparametric method. But if you want to understand the biology of the disease and the effects of drug treatments you need to seriously consider the parametric method. Nick
Jul 03, 2007 Nick Holford Re: COX Proportional Hazard Model with Time DependentCovariate
Jul 04, 2007 Mike K Smith RE: COX Proportional Hazard Model with Time DependentCovariate