Coding a triple absorption model

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Coding a triple absorption model

From: Mahesh Samtani Date: June 04, 2009 technical
> Dear NMusers, I am using a dual absorption model as follows (The dose is split into 2 fractions and the splitting fraction, THETA(.), is an estimated parameter in the model): TPH = LOG(THETA(.)/(1-THETA(.))) TH = EXP(TPH+ETA(.))/(1+EXP(TPH+ETA(.))) F2 = TH F1 = 1-TH However, upon prolonged sampling we can observe a 3rd shallow phase. I would like to use a 3-depot absorption process with F1, F2 and F3=1-F1-F2. Both F1 and F2 need etas using some type of transformation such that neither one of them exceed 1 nor does their sum exceed 1. Can some one kindly provide the NONMEM code. Thanking you in advance, Mahesh

RE: Coding a triple absorption model

From: Mark Sale Date: June 04, 2009 technical
Title: Coding a triple absorption model Mahesh, Consider modeling F2 as a fraction of the part of bioavailablilty left over after F1: LF1 = THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) F1= LF1/(1+LF1) LF2 = THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) F2 = (1-F1)*(LF2/(1+LF2)) ;LF2 DESCRIBES FRACTION OF THE STILL AVAILABLE DOSE (1-F1) F3 = 1-F1-F2 Mark Sale MD Next Level Solutions, LLC www.NextLevelSolns.com 919-846-9185
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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NMusers] Coding a triple absorption model From: "Samtani, Mahesh [PRDUS]" < [email protected] > Date: Thu, June 04, 2009 4:34 pm To: < [email protected] > Dear NMusers, I am using a dual absorption model as follows (The dose is split into 2 fractions and the splitting fraction, THETA(.), is an estimated parameter in the model): TPH = LOG(THETA(.)/(1-THETA(.))) TH = EXP(TPH+ETA(.))/(1+EXP(TPH+ETA(.))) F2 = TH F1 = 1-TH However, upon prolonged sampling we can observe a 3rd shallow phase. I would like to use a 3-depot absorption process with F1, F2 and F3=1-F1-F2. Both F1 and F2 need etas using some type of transformation such that neither one of them exceed 1 nor does their sum exceed 1. Can some one kindly provide the NONMEM code. Thanking you in advance, Mahesh
Hello Mahesh, I recommend that your read the following paper: The use of a sum of inverse Gaussian functions to describe the absorption profile of drugs exhibiting complex absorption.Csajka C, Drover D, Verotta D. Pharm Res. 2005 Aug;22(8):1227-35. Epub 2005 Aug 3. It details how to constraint F's when you have multiple absorption components as in your case. It includes two different methods for parametrization(P1) and (P2) as well as useful equations that can be coded into nonmem easily. Hope this helps, Samer
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] on behalf of Samtani, Mahesh [PRDUS] Sent: Thu 6/4/2009 16:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] Coding a triple absorption model > Dear NMusers, I am using a dual absorption model as follows (The dose is split into 2 fractions and the splitting fraction, THETA(.), is an estimated parameter in the model): TPH = LOG(THETA(.)/(1-THETA(.))) TH = EXP(TPH+ETA(.))/(1+EXP(TPH+ETA(.))) F2 = TH F1 = 1-TH However, upon prolonged sampling we can observe a 3rd shallow phase. I would like to use a 3-depot absorption process with F1, F2 and F3=1-F1-F2. Both F1 and F2 need etas using some type of transformation such that neither one of them exceed 1 nor does their sum exceed 1. Can some one kindly provide the NONMEM code. Thanking you in advance, Mahesh

Re: Coding a triple absorption model

From: Leonid Gibiansky Date: June 04, 2009 technical
SUM=1+ EXP(THETA(1)+ETA(1)) + EXP(THETA(2)+ETA(2)) F1=EXP(THETA(1)+ETA(1))/SUM F2=EXP(THETA(2)+ETA(2))/SUM F3=1/SUM -------------------------------------- Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D. President, QuantPharm LLC web: www.quantpharm.com e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com tel: (301) 767 5566 Samtani, Mahesh [PRDUS] wrote: > Dear NMusers, > > I am using a dual absorption model as follows (The dose is split into 2 fractions and the splitting fraction, THETA(.), is an estimated parameter in the model): > > TPH = LOG(THETA(.)/(1-THETA(.))) > TH = EXP(TPH+ETA(.))/(1+EXP(TPH+ETA(.))) > F2 = TH > F1 = 1-TH > > However, upon prolonged sampling we can observe a 3rd shallow phase. I would like to use a 3-depot absorption process with F1, F2 and F3=1-F1-F2. Both F1 and F2 need etas using some type of transformation such that neither one of them exceed 1 nor does their sum exceed 1. Can some one kindly provide the NONMEM code. > > Thanking you in advance, > Mahesh