Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV

From: Bill Denney Date: August 12, 2013 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Hi Xinting, In a few rare cases, I've seen this happen if the model is approaching nonconvergence. In those cases, typically the RSE on one or more parameters will increase and the ratio of max to min eigenvalues will increase substantially. Are you seeing either of these? Thanks, Bill
Quoted reply history
On Aug 11, 2013, at 21:56, "Leonid Gibiansky" <[email protected]> wrote: Xinting, Try to start from the initial conditions of your "reduced" model but add that "reduced" ETA with the corresponding OMEGA equal to 0.01 or other small number. If the control stream code is correct, the objective function should decrease or retain the same value. Leonid -------------------------------------- Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D. President, QuantPharm LLC web: www.quantpharm.com e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com tel: (301) 767 5566 On 8/10/2013 10:23 PM, Xinting Wang wrote: > Dear all, > > Does anyone witnessed such a phenomenon in NONMEM as when you reduced an > ETA, the OFV value, rather than increase, actually decreased? It's quite > against intuition, as individual estimation should be better than > population estimation in that particular parameter. Both models, whether > having this ETA, converged very well. > > Best > > -- > Xinting
Aug 11, 2013 Xinting Wang Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 11, 2013 Doug J. Eleveld RE: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 12, 2013 Leonid Gibiansky Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 12, 2013 Bill Denney Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 25, 2013 Xinting Wang Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 25, 2013 Bill Denney Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 25, 2013 Leonid Gibiansky Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 26, 2013 Xinting Wang Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 26, 2013 Bill Denney RE: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV
Aug 26, 2013 Leonid Gibiansky Re: Reducing ETAs actually decreased OFV