RE: Linear VS LTBS
Hi Neil,
1. When data are log-transformed the $ERROR block has to change: additive error
becomes true exponential error which cannot be achieved without
log-transformation (Nick, correct me if I am wrong).
2. Error cannot "go away". You claim your structural model (THs) remained
unchanged. Therefore the "amount" of error will remain the same as well. If you
reduce BSV you may have to "pay" for it with increased residual variability.
3. Confidence intervals of ETAs based on standard errors produced during the
covariance step are unreliable (many threads in NMusers). Do bootstrap to
obtain more reliable C.I..
These are my five cents worth of thought in the early morning,
Good luck,
Joachim
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on
Behalf Of Indranil Bhattacharya
Sent: 20 August 2009 17:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: [NMusers] Linear VS LTBS
Hi, while data fitting using NONMEM on a regular PK data set and its log
transformed version I made the following observations
- PK parameters (thetas) were generally similar between regular and when
using LTBS.
-ETA on CL was similar
-ETA on Vc was different between the two runs.
- Sigma was higher in LTBS (51%) than linear (33%)
Now using LTBS, I would have expected to see the ETAs unchanged or actually
decrease and accordingly I observed that the eta values decreased showing less
BSV. However the %RSE for ETA on VC changed from 40% (linear) to 350% (LTBS)
and further the lower 95% CI bound has a negative number for ETA on Vc (-0.087).
What would be the explanation behind the above observations regarding increased
%RSE using LTBS and a negative lower bound for ETA on Vc? Can a negative lower
bound in ETA be considered as zero?
Also why would the residual vriability increase when using LTBS?
Please note that the PK is multiexponential (may be this is responsible).
Thanks.
Neil
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Indranil Bhattacharya