RE: CrcL or Cr in pediatric model

From: Jakob Ribbing Date: January 12, 2009 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Pete, Is the drug cleared almost completely thru renal elimination? Otherwise, maybe a slope intercept model for CL as a function of CRCL? TVCL=THETA(X)*(WT/70)**0.75+THETA(Y)*CRCL The intercept is nonrenal CL according to the allometric model and the slope according to CRCL. This model may be inappropriate if renally impared are included in the dataset or if there are other reasons to why the linear model for CRCL may be inappropriate. With this model the collinearity is a smaller problem since the exponent in the allometric model is not estimated. Best regards Jakob
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________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bonate, Peter Sent: 12 January 2009 21:52 To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model I have an interesting question I'd like to get the group's collective opinion on. I am fitting a pediatric and adult pk dataset. I have fixed weight a priori to its allometric exponents in the model. When I test serum creatinine and estimated creatinine clearance equation as covariates in the model (power function), both are statistically significant. CrCL appears to be a better predictor than serum Cr (LRT = 22.7 vs 16.7). I have an issue with using CrCL as a predictor in the model since it's estimate is based on weight and weight is already in the model. Also, there might be collinearity issues with CrCL and weight in the same model, even though they are both significant. Does anyone have a good argument for using CrCL in the model instead of serum Cr? Thanks Pete bonate Peter L. Bonate, PhD, FCP Genzyme Corporation Senior Director Clinical Pharmacology and Pharmacokinetics 4545 Horizon Hill Blvd San Antonio, TX 78229 USA [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> phone: 210-949-8662 fax: 210-949-8219 crackberry: 210-315-2713 alea jacta est - The die is cast. Julius Caesar
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