RE: Subpopulation

From: Serge Guzy Date: August 13, 2008 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Did you try to fit a non linear model with both linear (non target specific) and non linear (target specific) clearance? At high doses, the non linear part of the clearance will allow one estimating both vm and Km. At low doses, Vm.C/(C+KM) will be reduced to Vm/Km.C which is now an additional linear clearance term. When using a population approach, not all the parameters must be identifiable for each patient unlike the traditional individual fitting procedures (like Winnonlin). Best regards; Serge Guzy Principal Scientist, XOMA (US) LLC President, CEO, POP-PHARM; Inc;
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________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saik.urien.svp Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:59 AM To: Huali Wu; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMusers] Subpopulation Huali The best solution is to fit all of your data to the more general model. In this case that is of course the non linear model (the pk linear model is a simplification of the limit where cc is very small relative to Km) Saik ----- Original Message ----- From: Huali Wu <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:14 PM Subject: [NMusers] Subpopulation Dear NMusers: I am trying to fit a dataset with 13 dose levels. The highest dose is about 10 times of the lowest dose. Each patient receive one dose and were sampled intensively up to 7 days. The results of individual PK analysis shown linear kinetics for some of the patients and nonlinear kinetics for the other patients. I have tried to fit all of them together. But my advisor wants me to fit linear patients and nonlinear patients separately to get a better look of fitting. Additionally, all the nonlinear patients are from higher dose levels. But not all the patients in higher dose levels shown nonlinear kinetics. So my question is which way is more appropriate in this case? Should I fit them all together or separately? Could these two types of patients be considered as subpopulations? Any comment or suggestion will be highly appreciated. Best regards, Huali -- The information contained in this email message may contain confidential or legally privileged information and is intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any transmission error. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, please immediately delete the e-mail and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender either by telephone or return e-mail. Any direct or indirect use, disclosure, distribution, printing, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of XOMA.
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