When should a long run be aborted?

From: Paul Hutson Date: November 22, 2004 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: "Paul Hutson" prhutson@pharmacy.wisc.edu Subject: [NMusers] When should a long run be aborted? Date: Mon, November 22, 2004 11:27 am Good Monday to you all (Tuesday to Nick and Steve): I have a run underway on a 1 GHz TabletPC running NONMEM under Wings for NONMEM. It has been underway since last Wednesday. I am not getting every-10 reports of the parameters and gradients, but this has been the case for me with WFN. Last Friday I did get a warning message: PRED EXIT CODE 1 THETA= ... OCCURS DURING SEARCH FOR ETA AT A NONZERO VALUE OF ETA NUMERICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH INTEGRATION ROUTINE MAXIMUM NO. OF EVALUATIONS OF DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS, 100000, EXCEEDED. (I have the GENFOR fix included in the installation.) Haven't had an error message (or anything else for that matter) pop up over the weekend. This is the most data-rich fit I've ever tried, with 8 observations of parent and metabolite for each of 33 subjects. Nothing in terms of the PHARMA runs, I'm sure, but still I have no frame of reference on how long I should wait. I would like advice regarding how long to let this run continue before I assume that the thing is just chasing its tail. I have another run on my 350 MHz desktop that is even more complex (two metabolites), but I figured that if the 1 GHz wasn't ready, I shouldn't expect my desktop dog to be done. Control stream and data from 2 of the 33 subjects are appended. Thanks for your advice. Paul $PROBLEM E AND METABOLITE $INPUT ID SUBJ TIME AMT II SS ADDL DV CMT EVID $DATA ..\EXE3.CSV IGNORE=C $SUBROUTINES ADVAN6 TRANS1 TOL=5 $MODEL NPAR=5 NCOMP=3 COMP=(DEPOT,DEFDOSE) COMP=(PARENT) COMP=(METAB) $PK KA=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)); KABS K=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)); CL V2=THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)); VC FME=THETA(4); FME KME=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(4)); KME S2=V2/1000; SCALING FOR PARENT S3=V2/1000 CL=K/V2 AUC=AMT/CL CLF=CL*FME $DES DADT(1)=-A(1)*KA; GUT DADT(2)=A(1)*KA-A(2)*K; PARENT DADT(3)=(A(2)*K*FME)-A(3)*KME; METABOLITE $ERROR FX=0 IF (F.EQ.0) FX=1 W=F+FX IPRED=F IRES=DV-IPRED IWRES=IRES/W Y = F*EXP(EPS(1))+EPS(2) IF (CMT.EQ.3) THEN Y= F*EXP(EPS(3))+EPS(4) ENDIF $THETA 1000 FIXED ; KA $THETA (0.001,0.542,10) ; K $THETA (0.001,1320,100000) ; V2 $THETA (0.001,0.829,1) ; FME $THETA (0.01,3.11,100) ; KME $OMEGA .189 $OMEGA .194 $OMEGA .459 $OMEGA .01 $SIGMA .619 .343 ; SIGP $SIGMA .384 .128 ; SIGM $ESTIMATION METHOD=1 SIGDIGITS=3 MAXEVAL=9999 POSTHOC PRINT=10 NOABORT MSFO=exem5.msf ;$COVR $TABLE ID TIME KA K V2 FME KME CL AUC CLF NOPRINT FILE=exem5.fit $SCAT ID VS (DV CMT CL) $SCAT DV VS TIME BY CMT $SCAT PRED VS TIME BY CMT $SCAT RES VS TIME BY CMT $SCAT IWRES VS DV BY CMT $SCAT PRED VS DV BY CMT UNIT CID Subject TIME AMT II SS ADDL DV CMT EVID 28 1313 0 25 24 2 2 . 1 1 28 1313 0 . . . . 0.424 2 0 28 1313 0 . . . . 0.102 3 0 28 1313 0.5 . . . . 26.8 2 0 28 1313 0.5 . . . . 4.29 3 0 28 1313 1 . . . . 10.9 2 0 28 1313 1 . . . . 2.89 3 0 28 1313 2 . . . . 4.45 2 0 28 1313 2 . . . . 1.12 3 0 28 1313 4 . . . . 1.24 2 0 28 1313 4 . . . . 0.443 3 0 28 1313 6 . . . . 0.749 2 0 28 1313 6 . . . . 0.257 3 0 28 1313 24 . . . . 0.433 2 0 28 1313 24 . . . . 0.151 3 0 28 1313 48 . . . . 0.372 2 0 28 1313 48 . . . . 0.124 3 0 10 1316 0 25 24 2 2 . 1 1 10 1316 0 . . . . 0.625 2 0 10 1316 0 . . . . 0.169 3 0 10 1316 0.5 . . . . 45 2 0 10 1316 0.5 . . . . 4.41 3 0 10 1316 1 . . . . 25.4 2 0 10 1316 1 . . . . 3.46 3 0 10 1316 2 . . . . 7.81 2 0 10 1316 2 . . . . 1.54 3 0 10 1316 4 . . . . 4.09 2 0 10 1316 4 . . . . 1.01 3 0 10 1316 6 . . . . 2.72 2 0 10 1316 6 . . . . 0.722 3 0 10 1316 24 . . . . 0.616 2 0 10 1316 24 . . . . 0.181 3 0 10 1316 48 . . . . 0.627 2 0 10 1316 48 . . . . 0.184 3 0 Paul Hutson, Pharm.D. Associate Professor (CHS) UW School of Pharmacy 777 Highland Avenue Madison, WI 53705-2222 Tel: (608) 263-2496 FAX: (608) 265-5421 Pager: (608) 265-7000, #7856
Nov 22, 2004 Paul Hutson When should a long run be aborted?
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