Simulated vs. fitted population concentration curves

From: Toufigh Gordi Date: February 10, 2004 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: Toufigh Gordi - tgordi@buffalo.edu Subject: [NMusers] Simulated vs. fitted population concentration curves Date: 2/10/2004 10:09 AM Dear all, I have been simulating a 2 compartment model with saturable CL. Model estimates are based on a fit of the same model to real data from subjects receiving 6 different doses. To my surprise, I find out that concentration estimates at specific times based on population values differ between the simulated subject and the real one. I do not understand how this can be the case. Shouldn't typical concentration-time curves for the simulated and fitted subjects be the same? The models are given below, first the fitted model and then the simulated one. THETA values in the simulating model are, as mentioned above, taken from the fit of the model to real data. Thank you! Toufigh Gordi The fitted model: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- $PROB ALL DOSES ; 2-COMP $INPUT ID AMT RATE DUR DATE=DROP TIME DV EVID SEXF CMT GRP PKPD $DATA finalPK.csv IGNORE=# $SUBROUTINE ADVAN9 TRANS1 TOL=5 $MODEL NCOMP=2 COMP=CENT COMP=PERIPH $PK VM=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) KM=THETA(2) V1=THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(2)) Q=THETA(4) V2=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(3)) D1=DUR S1=V1 $DES CON=A(1)/V1 DADT(1)=-A(1)*(VM/(KM+CON))/V1-A(1)*Q/V1+A(2)*Q/V2 DADT(2)=A(1)*Q/V1-A(2)*Q/V2 $ERROR IPRED=F W=1 IRES=DV-IPRED IWRES=IRES/W Y=IPRED*(1+EPS(1))+EPS(2) $THETA (0, 6.76) ;1 VM $THETA (0, 7.66) ;2 KM $THETA (0, 43.4) ;3 V1 $THETA (0, 0.342) ;4 Q $THETA (0, 46.3) ;5 V2 $OMEGA 0.1 ;1 IIV VM $OMEGA 0.1 ;2 IIV V1 $OMEGA 0.1 ;3 IIV V2 $SIGMA 0.05 ;3 PROP ERROR PK $SIGMA 0.1 ;4 ADD ERROR PK $ESTIMATION NOABORT POSTHOC MAXEVAL=9999 PRINT=3 METHOD=1 INTERACTION MSFO=MSF2000 $COVARIANCE $TABLE ID TIME Y PKPD IPRED NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=SDTAB2000 $TABLE ID TIME VM KM V1 Q V2 NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=PATAB2000 $TABLE ID SEXF NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=CATAB2000 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- The simulated model: $PROB ALL DOSES $INPUT ID AMT RATE DUR DATE=DROP TIME DV EVID SEXF CMT GRP PKPD $DATA popsim.csv IGNORE=# $SUBROUTINE ADVAN9 TRANS1 TOL=5 $MODEL NCOMP=2 COMP=CENT COMP=PERIPH $PK VM=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) KM=THETA(2) V1=THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(2)) Q=THETA(4) V2=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(3)) D1=DUR S1=V1 $DES CON=A(2)/V1 DADT(1)=-A(1)*(VM/(KM+CON))/V1-A(1)*Q/V1+A(2)*Q/V2 DADT(2)=A(1)*Q/V1-A(2)*Q/V2 $ERROR IPRED=F W=1 IRES=DV-IPRED IWRES=IRES/W Y=IPRED*(1+EPS(1))+EPS(2) $THETA (8.41 FIXED) ;1 VM $THETA (12.3 FIXED) ;2 KM $THETA (42.3 FIXED) ;3 V1 $THETA (0.367 FIXED) ;4 Q $THETA (39.5 FIXED) ;5 V2 $OMEGA 0 FIX ;1 IIV VM $OMEGA 0 FIX ;2 IIV V1 $OMEGA 0 FIX ;3 IIV V2 $SIGMA 0 FIX ;1 PROP ERROR PK $SIGMA 0 FIX ;2 ADD ERROR PK $SIMULATION (20031857) ONLYSIM $TABLE ID TIME IPRED Y PKPD GRP NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=SDTAB304
Feb 10, 2004 Toufigh Gordi Simulated vs. fitted population concentration curves
Feb 10, 2004 Leonid Gibiansky RE: Simulated vs. fitted population concentration curves