RE: 1 binary response/person

From: Vladimir Piotrovskij Date: September 18, 2001 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: "Piotrovskij, Vladimir [JanBe]" <VPIOTROV@janbe.jnj.com> Subject: RE: 1 binary response/person Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:22:05 +0200 Even if OMEGA is not fixed to zero and the random effect is at the level of logit [e.g., LOGIT = INT + SLOPE * LOG(CONC) + ETA(1)] the program converges to a negligible value of OMEGA in case of a single binary observation per individual. If more than one observation are available and they are independent, the following control works fine: $PROB dichotomous response: mutiple obs per individual $DATA nmd.ssc $INPUT ID CONC DV $PRED EC50 = THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) SLOPE = THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) INT = -LOG(EC50) * SLOPE LOGIT = INT + SLOPE * LOG(CONC) A=EXP(LOGIT) P=A/(1+A) IF (DV.EQ.1) THEN Y=P ELSE Y=1-P ENDIF $THETA (0,200,300) (.5,2,15) $OMEGA .1 .1 $EST METHOD=COND LAPLACE LIKE MAX=500 PRINT=10 $COV The number of observations/individual should be substantial. I tested it with 10 obs/individual and 50 individuals, and it was fine. I presume if the number of obs/individual is relatively small, the IIV in SLOPE (which corresponds to Hill coeff) cannot be estimated, although it has not been tested. Best regards, Vladimir ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vladimir Piotrovsky, Ph.D. Research Fellow Global Clinical Pharmacokinetics and Clinical Pharmacology (ext. 5463) Janssen Research Foundation B-2340 Beerse Belgium Email: vpiotrov@janbe.jnj.com
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