Problem in using $PRED

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Problem in using $PRED

From: Tbtzeng Date: March 22, 2002 technical
From: TBTZENG@aol.com Subject: [NMusers] Problem in using $PRED Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:50:05 EST Dear NONMEM Users: I am exploring the function of user-written using $PRED and find that the program appears not to function right in $PRED as compared to $PREDPP in the same set of data. Under $PREDPP, the parameter estimates and program iteration are reasonable and normal with 1779 iterations and MOF value of -460.51. However, under $PRED , program appears to reach local convergence (minimization was successful with no warning signs) with only 16 iterations, MOF value of 1708.311 and the parameter estimates are exactly the same as the initial estimates. Included here are my two control streams and one partial data set. Any clue about the problems in my control stream and/or data format using $PRED is appreciated. Data are from a cross-over oral bioequivalence study for two formula with same active ingredient. Plasma concentrations were transformed into log scale. Thanks a lot! Tsang-Bin Tzeng MegaMed PRI/PPC USA (609) 870-0248 Here are my two control streams $PROB Test1 bioavailability $INPUT FORM ID TIME CON MDV AMT LCON=DV $DATA TEST1BIO.PRN $PRED ;$SUBROUTINES ADVAN2 TRANS2 ;$PK CALFL=1 ; once per individual CL = THETA(1) * EXP(ETA(1)) V = THETA(2) * EXP(ETA(2)) IF (FORM.EQ.1) THEN KA = THETA(3) * EXP(ETA(3)) ALAG1 = THETA(4) * EXP(ETA(4)) F1 = THETA(5) * EXP(ETA(5)) ELSE KA = THETA(6) * EXP(ETA(6)) ALAG1 = THETA(7) * EXP(ETA(7)) F1 = 1.0000 ENDIF DT=TIME-ALAG1 S2 = V/1000 F=KA*F1*AMT/S2/(KA-CL/V)*(EXP(-CL/V*DT)-EXP(-KA*DT)) ;$ERROR CALLFL=0 IF (F.GT.0) THEN IPRE=LOG(F) ELSE IPRE=LOG(10) ENDIF IRES= DV - IPRE QQ=1 IF(FORM.EQ.1) QQ=0 Y=IPRE + (1-QQ)* ERR(1)+ QQ*ERR(2) $THETA (0 4.7 100); 1 CL (1 129 400); 2 V (0 2 10); 3 KA1 (0 0.1 5); 4 TLAG1 (0 1 3); 5 F (0 2 10); 6 KA2 (0 0.1 5); 7 TLAG2 $OMEGA 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.2 $SIGMA 0.01 0.01 $EST MSFO=msf MAX=9990 PRINT=10 POSTHOC; METHOD=1 ;$COV $SCATTER IPRE VS DV $PROB Test1 bioavailability $INPUT FORM ID TIME CON MDV AMT LCON=DV $DATA TEST1BIO.PRN $SUBROUTINES ADVAN2 TRANS2 $PK CALFL=1 ; once per individual CL = THETA(1) * EXP(ETA(1)) V = THETA(2) * EXP(ETA(2)) IF (FORM.EQ.1) THEN KA = THETA(3) * EXP(ETA(3)) ALAG1 = THETA(4) * EXP(ETA(4)) F1 = THETA(5) * EXP(ETA(5)) ELSE KA = THETA(6) * EXP(ETA(6)) ALAG1 = THETA(7) * EXP(ETA(7)) F1 = 1.0000 ENDIF S2 = V/1000 $ERROR CALLFL=0 IF (F.GT.0) THEN IPRE=LOG(F) ELSE IPRE=LOG(10) ENDIF IRES= DV - IPRE QQ=1 IF(FORM.EQ.1) QQ=0 Y=IPRE + (1-QQ)* ERR(1)+ QQ*ERR(2) $THETA (0 4.7 100); 1 CL (1 129 400); 2 V (0 2 10); 3 KA1 (0 0.1 5); 4 TLAG1 (0 1 3); 5 F (0 2 10); 6 KA2 (0 0.1 5); 7 TLAG2 $OMEGA 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.1 0.1 0.2 $SIGMA 0.01 0.01 $EST MSFO=msf MAX=9990 PRINT=10 POSTHOC; METHOD=1 ;$COV $SCATTER IPRE VS DV My data file is (The first 4 subjects are provided here): 1 1 0 . 1 100 . 1 1 0 . 1 0 . 1 1 0.5 20 0 0 2.995732 1 1 1 33.6 0 0 3.514526 1 1 1.5 45.6 0 0 3.819908 1 1 2 60.9 0 0 4.109233 1 1 2.5 116 0 0 4.75359 1 1 3 153 0 0 5.030438 1 1 4 245 0 0 5.501258 1 1 6 375 0 0 5.926926 1 1 8 364 0 0 5.897154 1 1 10 360 0 0 5.886104 1 1 12 341 0 0 5.831882 1 1 24 285 0 0 5.652489 1 1 36 319 0 0 5.765191 1 1 48 235 0 0 5.459586 1 1 72 76.8 0 0 4.341205 1 1 96 26 0 0 3.258097 1 2 0 . 1 100 . 1 2 0 . 1 0 . 1 2 0.5 . 1 0 . 1 2 1 28.8 0 0 3.360375 1 2 1.5 38.5 0 0 3.650658 1 2 2 59.8 0 0 4.091006 1 2 2.5 83 0 0 4.418841 1 2 3 132 0 0 4.882802 1 2 4 146 0 0 4.983607 1 2 6 346 0 0 5.846439 1 2 8 421 0 0 6.042633 1 2 10 472 0 0 6.156979 1 2 12 439 0 0 6.084499 1 2 24 420 0 0 6.040255 1 2 36 285 0 0 5.652489 1 2 48 163 0 0 5.09375 1 2 72 40.5 0 0 3.701302 1 2 96 16.3 0 0 2.791165 1 3 0 . 1 100 . 1 3 0 . 1 0 . 1 3 0.5 11.6 0 0 2.451005 1 3 1 22.5 0 0 3.113515 1 3 1.5 37.8 0 0 3.632309 1 3 2 57.1 0 0 4.044804 1 3 2.5 104 0 0 4.644391 1 3 3 124 0 0 4.820282 1 3 4 172 0 0 5.147494 1 3 6 184 0 0 5.214936 1 3 8 191 0 0 5.252273 1 3 10 235 0 0 5.459586 1 3 12 319 0 0 5.765191 1 3 24 206 0 0 5.327876 1 3 36 . 1 0 . 1 3 48 118 0 0 4.770685 1 3 72 49.7 0 0 3.906005 1 3 96 26.2 0 0 3.265759 1 4 0 . 1 100 . 1 4 0 . 1 0 . 1 4 0.5 . 1 0 . 1 4 1 14.3 0 0 2.66026 1 4 1.5 18.4 0 0 2.912351 1 4 2 28 0 0 3.332205 1 4 2.5 45.7 0 0 3.822098 1 4 3 73 0 0 4.290459 1 4 4 127 0 0 4.844187 1 4 6 159 0 0 5.068904 1 4 8 177 0 0 5.17615 1 4 10 200 0 0 5.298317 1 4 12 237 0 0 5.46806 1 4 24 256 0 0 5.545177 1 4 36 118 0 0 4.770685 1 4 48 112 0 0 4.718499 1 4 72 29.3 0 0 3.377588 1 4 96 15 0 0 2.70805

RE: Problem in using $PRED

From: Tbtzeng Date: March 22, 2002 technical
From: TBTZENG@aol.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] Problem in using $PRED Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:36:44 EST Dear Bill: Thanks a lot. You are right about this. The trick is not only the dose has to be placed in every record, but also "AMT" is not allowed to be used for dose item. Otherwise, NM-TRAN would come out an error indicating that it is inconsistent with MDV record. Tsang-Bin Tzeng MegaMed PRI/PPC USA *******

RE: Problem in using $PRED

From: William Bachman Date: March 22, 2002 technical
From: "Bachman, William" Subject: RE: [NMusers] Problem in using $PRED Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:12:06 -0500 Tsang-Bin, The program is fuctioning correctly. Your data file is coded wrong for your $PRED. When you use $PRED you no longer have the dosing advantages of PREDPP (e.g one record containing the dosing info). You must either: 1. add a DOSE column with "100" for all data records and change " F=KA*F1*AMT/S2..." to " F=KA*F1*DOSE/S2..." or 2. add some clever coding to $PRED to calculate DOSE from the AMT at time=0 (and change " F=KA*F1*AMT/S2..." to " F=KA*F1*DOSE/S2...") Bill William J. Bachman, Ph.D. GloboMax LLC 7250 Parkway Dr., Suite 430 Hanover, MD 21076 Voice (410) 782-2212 FAX (410) 712-0737 bachmanw@globomax.com