Prediction with parameter estimates on new data

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Prediction with parameter estimates on new data

From: Lib Gray Date: March 19, 2014 technical
Hello NMusers, I am new to NONMEM, and I am unsure how to use parameter estimates for prediction with new data. More specifically, I have a K/PD nonlinear mixed effects model developed in NONMEM, and I want to check its predictive power in a specific way. The data I've been using has about 500 patients, each with multiple dosing (AMT) and effect (DV) measurements. Most patients have many measurements, spanning several months. What I want to do is use the population estimates (and potentially also the between-subject variability estimates) from fitting the model to my entire data set to generate the predicted effects using only early data (for example, the first 3 months). I have the population estimates from fitting the model to all data, and I want to generate the model predicted effects using only early effect data (though with all dosing data), so that I can asses the model predicted effects for later time points. I am new to NONMEM, and am unsure if there is a way with NONMEM or PsN of using previous estimates on new data, in this specific way. I am looking into using R's deSolve package, since my model contains two differential equations, but I wanted to know if there was a more direct way. Thanks for any help, Lib Gray
Dear Lib, If you use the EVID data item (0 for observations 1 for doses) in your data set, you can denoted the observations for which you want to make a prediction by EVID=2 (other type event). That way they will not contribute to parameter estimation, but you will get predictions (both population and individual). Best regards, Mats Mats Karlsson, PhD Professor of Pharmacometrics Dept of Pharmaceutical Biosciences Faculty of Pharmacy Uppsala University Box 591 75124 Uppsala Phone: +46 18 4714105 Fax + 46 18 4714003 http://www.farmbio.uu.se/research/researchgroups/pharmacometrics/
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lib Gray Sent: 19 March 2014 15:36 To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] Prediction with parameter estimates on new data Hello NMusers, I am new to NONMEM, and I am unsure how to use parameter estimates for prediction with new data. More specifically, I have a K/PD nonlinear mixed effects model developed in NONMEM, and I want to check its predictive power in a specific way. The data I've been using has about 500 patients, each with multiple dosing (AMT) and effect (DV) measurements. Most patients have many measurements, spanning several months. What I want to do is use the population estimates (and potentially also the between-subject variability estimates) from fitting the model to my entire data set to generate the predicted effects using only early data (for example, the first 3 months). I have the population estimates from fitting the model to all data, and I want to generate the model predicted effects using only early effect data (though with all dosing data), so that I can asses the model predicted effects for later time points. I am new to NONMEM, and am unsure if there is a way with NONMEM or PsN of using previous estimates on new data, in this specific way. I am looking into using R's deSolve package, since my model contains two differential equations, but I wanted to know if there was a more direct way. Thanks for any help, Lib Gray
Dear Lib, I don't think I fully understand what you are going for - do you want to use the final parameter estimates from your model, in tandem with early timepoint data from individuals to predict the later effects for that specific individual? If that is the case you could simply change the EVID for all later time points to EVID = 2 and use MAXEVAL = 0. This would use your initial estimates as final estimates for the model and allow you to obtain EBE's and IPRED values for individuals at all time points, though you'd only be using early time point data for obtaining the EBEs that help drive the rest of the predicted values. Perhaps expanding a little more on what you are trying to accomplish can help us lead you in the right direction more easily.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lib Gray Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:33 AM To: Mats Karlsson Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NMusers] Prediction with parameter estimates on new data That is good to know, but in this case I want to use everything for parameter estimation, and then get predictions using those parameter estimates on a subset of the data. Is there a way to use EVID data item for that? On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Mats Karlsson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Dear Lib, If you use the EVID data item (0 for observations 1 for doses) in your data set, you can denoted the observations for which you want to make a prediction by EVID=2 (other type event). That way they will not contribute to parameter estimation, but you will get predictions (both population and individual). Best regards, Mats Mats Karlsson, PhD Professor of Pharmacometrics Dept of Pharmaceutical Biosciences Faculty of Pharmacy Uppsala University Box 591 75124 Uppsala Phone: +46 18 4714105<tel:%2B46%2018%204714105> Fax + 46 18 4714003<tel:%2B%2046%2018%204714003> http://www.farmbio.uu.se/research/researchgroups/pharmacometrics/ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Lib Gray Sent: 19 March 2014 15:36 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NMusers] Prediction with parameter estimates on new data Hello NMusers, I am new to NONMEM, and I am unsure how to use parameter estimates for prediction with new data. More specifically, I have a K/PD nonlinear mixed effects model developed in NONMEM, and I want to check its predictive power in a specific way. The data I've been using has about 500 patients, each with multiple dosing (AMT) and effect (DV) measurements. Most patients have many measurements, spanning several months. What I want to do is use the population estimates (and potentially also the between-subject variability estimates) from fitting the model to my entire data set to generate the predicted effects using only early data (for example, the first 3 months). I have the population estimates from fitting the model to all data, and I want to generate the model predicted effects using only early effect data (though with all dosing data), so that I can asses the model predicted effects for later time points. I am new to NONMEM, and am unsure if there is a way with NONMEM or PsN of using previous estimates on new data, in this specific way. I am looking into using R's deSolve package, since my model contains two differential equations, but I wanted to know if there was a more direct way. Thanks for any help, Lib Gray