Modeling 2 vs 3 compartments for mutant proteins

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Modeling 2 vs 3 compartments for mutant proteins

From: Paul Hutson Date: March 03, 2026 technical
I've been asked to model zymogen and activated wild type and mutated forms of an enzyme in in-bred mice. So one can consider the mutation of the administered protein a covariate, if you will For wild-type protein the model is 3 compartment, but when I throw in various other mutations (8 in all) the model changes from 3- to 2- compartments, depending upon the mutated protein administered. Normally we decide what number of compartments (exponents) explains our model, then look at etas and covariate. Has anyone set up a model where the base-model fit is 2- vs 3- compartments depending upon what "drug" (or crystalline form or isotopic formulation) was administered? I am hoping that the model for each mutation may be partially explained by its binding (or lack thereof) to circulating activating or quenching proteins. Thanks Paul Paul R. Hutson, PharmD, BCOP Distinguished Professor (CHS) Thora M. Vervoren Professor for Research in Psychoactive Substances UW School of Pharmacy Director, UW Madison Transdisciplinary Center for Research in Psychoactive https://www.research.pharmacy.wisc.edu/tcrps Faculty Leader, Paul P. Carbone Comprehensive Cancer Center Cancer Pharmacology https://cancer.wisc.edu/research/resources/ddc/cancer-pharmacology/ T: 608.263.2496 [email protected]
Hi Paul, Yes I have done that in the past in a different context (translational modeling). There is nothing stopping you from coding it by conditionally setting the appropriate rate constants to zero. But in your case it indeed might be more helpful to build a mechanism-based TMDD model as you stipulate yourself. With enzyme activation forms, substrate and other binding partners that may be more complex but it will add to understanding the fate of the drug. Hope this helps, Jeroen http://pd-value.com [email protected] @PD_value +31 6 23118438 -- More value out of your data!
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> Op 3 mrt 2026 om 19:57 heeft Paul Hutson < > > [email protected] > > > het volgende geschreven: >  > > I’ve been asked to model zymogen and activated wild type and mutated forms of an enzyme in in-bred mice. > > So one can consider the mutation of the administered protein a covariate, if you will > > For wild-type protein the model is 3 compartment, but when I throw in various other mutations (8 in all) the model changes from 3- to 2- compartments, depending upon the mutated protein administered. > > Normally we decide what number of compartments (exponents) explains our model, then look at etas and covariate. > > Has anyone set up a model where the base-model fit is 2- vs 3- compartments depending upon what “drug” (or crystalline form or isotopic formulation) was administered? > > I am hoping that the model for each mutation may be partially explained by its binding (or lack thereof) to circulating activating or quenching proteins. > > Thanks > Paul > > Paul R. Hutson, PharmD, BCOP > > Distinguished Professor (CHS) > > Thora M. Vervoren Professor for Research in Psychoactive Substances > UW School of Pharmacy > > Director, UW Madison Transdisciplinary Center for Research in Psychoactive Substances > > Faculty Leader, Paul P. Carbone Comprehensive Cancer Center Cancer Pharmacology > Laboratory > > T: 608.263.2496 > > [email protected]