full covariance matrix

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full covariance matrix

From: Rik Schoemaker Date: January 11, 1999 technical
From: "Rik Schoemaker" <rs@chdr.nl> Subject: full covariance matrix Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:44:32 +0100 Dear fellow nmusers, If I were to analyse a model say with 3 parameters and use a constant CV inter-individual error model: P1 = THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) P2 = THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) P3 = THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) and I would like to estimate the full covariance matrix: $OMEGA BLOCK(3) .1 .01 .1 .01 .01 .1 then what is the meaning of the off-diagonal estimates (the ¡covariances¢) and can they be translated back to for instance correlation coefficients? Can anyone comment on whether I *should* use a full covariance matrix (provided the data can support all the extra parameters)? Thanks a lot, Rik Schoemaker Centre for Human Drug Research, Leiden, Netherlands rs@chdr.nl

Re: full covariance matrix

From: Lewis B. Sheiner Date: January 12, 1999 technical
From: Lewis Sheiner <lewis@c255.ucsf.edu> Subject: Re: full covariance matrix Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:19:24 -0800 Rik, In general, you "should" use a full cov matrix, as any other choice is a modeling choice that says you know that certain random effects are uncorrelated. You would have to have a scientific basis for making such an assertion. Off diagonal terms can be thought of as correlations, when transformed to by normalizing to the the cv's of the corresponding diagonal elements - that is cov(a,b)/sd(a)/sd(b) ... the fact that they are CV's doesn't change this ... LBS.