covariate on transit compartment model parameters

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covariate on transit compartment model parameters

From: Jing Niu Date: September 25, 2016 technical
Dear NMusers, I am modeling long-acting injectable formulation using transit compartment model parameterized with mtt (mean transit time) and ntr (number of transit compartment). As I would like to model multiple formulations using the same structure model, adding formulation as a categorical covariate on mtt or ntr separately decreased the OFV significantly (by ~100 units). Considering mtt and ntr are correlated parameters, should I add formulation on both mtt and ntr, or adding to either one is sufficient? Any input is greatly appreciated, Jing PS: I am considering the latter one, due to that the simulations with changing Ktr or ntr generated similar profiles (Fig1 c and d, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3636497/pdf/psp201314a.pdf).

Re: covariate on transit compartment model parameters

From: Devin Pastoor Date: September 25, 2016 technical
Jing, I think this is a strategy should be guided by the key questions you are trying to address with your model. If your goal is simply to best approximate the shape of the profile in existing individuals, the strategy you employ could be vastly different than if the next step would be to simulate potential impact of changes to the formulation, in which your placement and justification of covariates could have greater implications on your resulting inferences. That said, I would suggest considering the mechanism of the formulation release. For example, if these are the similar formulations, with just tweaked adjuvant ratios to control the release rate, you could argue that mtt alone could drive the shape changes. If, on the other hand, these formulations had separate formulations (say different types of microsphere formulations) that could change the mechanism of dispersal *and* the rate of dissolution then you could tie back the contributions in shape to both ntr and mtt. Devin Pastoor Center For Translational Medicine, University of Maryland Baltimore
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On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 9:01 AM Jing Niu <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear NMusers, > I am modeling long-acting injectable formulation using transit compartment > model parameterized with mtt (mean transit time) and ntr (number of transit > compartment). As I would like to model multiple formulations using the same > structure model, adding formulation as a categorical covariate on mtt or > ntr separately decreased the OFV significantly (by ~100 units). Considering > mtt and ntr are correlated parameters, should I add formulation on both > mtt and ntr, or adding to either one is sufficient? > Any input is greatly appreciated, > Jing > > PS: I am considering the latter one, due to that the simulations with > changing Ktr or ntr generated similar profiles (Fig1 c and d, > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3636497/pdf/psp201314a.pdf). > >

RE: covariate on transit compartment model parameters

From: Rob ter Heine Date: September 26, 2016 technical
Hi Jing, Testing covariates on dispostition of your long acting injectable all depends on the pharmaceutics. E.g., if you have an intramuscularly injection of a nano-suspension, you might want to consider a zero order process for the release of the drug in the systemic circulation and see whether particle size impacts dissolution rate. In any case, think about the pharmaceutical plausability first before testing a covariate. Cheers, Rob
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Van: owner-nmusers_at_globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmusers_at_globomaxnm.com] Namens Jing Niu Verzonden: zondag 25 september 2016 14:41 Aan: nmusers_at_globomaxnm.com Onderwerp: [NMusers] covariate on transit compartment model parameters Dear NMusers, I am modeling long-acting injectable formulation using transit compartment model parameterized with mtt (mean transit time) and ntr (number of transit compartment). As I would like to model multiple formulations using the same structure model, adding formulation as a categorical covariate on mtt or ntr separately decreased the OFV significantly (by ~100 units). Considering mtt and ntr are correlated parameters, should I add formulation on both mtt and ntr, or adding to either one is sufficient? Any input is greatly appreciated, Jing PS: I am considering the latter one, due to that the simulations with changing Ktr or ntr generated similar profiles (Fig1 c and d, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3636497/pdf/psp201314a.pdf). Het Radboudumc staat geregistreerd bij de Kamer van Koophandel in het handelsregister onder nummer 41055629. The Radboud university medical center is listed in the Commercial Register of the Chamber of Commerce under file number 41055629.

RE: covariate on transit compartment model parameters

From: Rob ter Heine Date: September 26, 2016 technical
Hi Jing, Testing covariates on dispostition of your long acting injectable all depends on the pharmaceutics. E.g., if you have an intramuscularly injection of a nano-suspension, you might want to consider a zero order process for the release of the drug in the systemic circulation and see whether particle size impacts dissolution rate. In any case, think about the pharmaceutical plausability first before testing a covariate. Cheers, Rob
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Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Jing Niu Verzonden: zondag 25 september 2016 14:41 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: [NMusers] covariate on transit compartment model parameters Dear NMusers, I am modeling long-acting injectable formulation using transit compartment model parameterized with mtt (mean transit time) and ntr (number of transit compartment). As I would like to model multiple formulations using the same structure model, adding formulation as a categorical covariate on mtt or ntr separately decreased the OFV significantly (by ~100 units). Considering mtt and ntr are correlated parameters, should I add formulation on both mtt and ntr, or adding to either one is sufficient? Any input is greatly appreciated, Jing PS: I am considering the latter one, due to that the simulations with changing Ktr or ntr generated similar profiles (Fig1 c and d, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3636497/pdf/psp201314a.pdf). Het Radboudumc staat geregistreerd bij de Kamer van Koophandel in het handelsregister onder nummer 41055629. The Radboud university medical center is listed in the Commercial Register of the Chamber of Commerce under file number 41055629.