Combined absorption model

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Combined absorption model

From: Galadriel Date: July 21, 2008 technical
Dear all, I tried to build up a combined absorption model (zero order + first order)using ADVAN 4, following is the control file I found in the PDx-pop library, ........... CL=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) V2=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) Q =THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) V3=THETA(4)*EXP(ETA(4)) KA=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(5)) R2=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) F1=EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))/(1+EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))) F2=1-F1 S2=V2 ................. and for each dose record, an additional IV adminstration dose record is inserted with same dosage & rate=-2 ID TIME AMT DV CMT RATE........ 1 0 100 . 1 0 ......... 1 0 100 . 2 -2 ......... An error message is reported 'PK PARAMETER FOR DURATION IS NOT SUPPLIED BY PK FOR COMPT. NO. 2'. So is it the proper way to code the data? How can I estimate combined absorption model without using the differiential equation? Many thanks for your help! BR, Galadriel

RE: Combined absorption model

From: Kim Kristensen Date: July 21, 2008 technical
Dear Galadriel I think you need to change your R2=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) to D2=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) in order estimated the duration of your zero order absorption. BR Kim
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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Galadriel Sent: den 21 juli 2008 11:8 To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] Combined absorption model Dear all, I tried to build up a combined absorption model (zero order + first order)using ADVAN 4, following is the control file I found in the PDx-pop library, ........... CL=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) V2=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) Q =THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) V3=THETA(4)*EXP(ETA(4)) KA=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(5)) R2=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) F1=EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))/(1+EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))) F2=1-F1 S2=V2 ................. and for each dose record, an additional IV adminstration dose record is inserted with same dosage & rate=-2 ID TIME AMT DV CMT RATE........ 1 0 100 . 1 0 ......... 1 0 100 . 2 -2 ......... An error message is reported 'PK PARAMETER FOR DURATION IS NOT SUPPLIED BY PK FOR COMPT. NO. 2'. So is it the proper way to code the data? How can I estimate combined absorption model without using the differiential equation? Many thanks for your help! BR, Galadriel

RE: Combined absorption model

From: Howard Lee Date: July 21, 2008 technical
Dear Galadriel, When the RATE data item is coded "-2", then you should estimate D2 (duration for the central compartment), instead of R2. Howard Lee
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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Galadriel Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] Combined absorption model Dear all, I tried to build up a combined absorption model (zero order + first order)using ADVAN 4, following is the control file I found in the PDx-pop library, ........... CL=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) V2=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) Q =THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) V3=THETA(4)*EXP(ETA(4)) KA=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(5)) R2=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) F1=EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))/(1+EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))) F2=1-F1 S2=V2 ................. and for each dose record, an additional IV adminstration dose record is inserted with same dosage & rate=-2 ID TIME AMT DV CMT RATE........ 1 0 100 . 1 0 ......... 1 0 100 . 2 -2 ......... An error message is reported 'PK PARAMETER FOR DURATION IS NOT SUPPLIED BY PK FOR COMPT. NO. 2'. So is it the proper way to code the data? How can I estimate combined absorption model without using the differiential equation? Many thanks for your help! BR, Galadriel

Re: Combined absorption model

From: Sam Liao Date: July 21, 2008 technical
Dear Galadriel: You would need to provide an estimate of D2, the duration of zero-order input to CMT=2 in your model. Sam Liao Pharmax Research > Dear all, > > I tried to build up a combined absorption model (zero order + first > order)using ADVAN 4, following is the control file I found in the > PDx-pop library, > > ........... > CL=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) > V2=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) > Q =THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) > V3=THETA(4)*EXP(ETA(4)) > KA=THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(5)) > R2=THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) > F1=EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))/(1+EXP(THETA(7)+ETA(7))) > F2=1-F1 > S2=V2 > ................. > > and for each dose record, an additional IV adminstration dose record > is inserted with same dosage & rate=-2 > > ID TIME AMT DV CMT RATE........ > 1 0 100 . 1 0 ......... > 1 0 100 . 2 -2 ......... > > An error message is reported 'PK PARAMETER FOR DURATION IS NOT > SUPPLIED BY PK FOR COMPT. NO. 2'. > > So is it the proper way to code the data? How can I estimate combined > absorption model without using the differiential equation? > > Many thanks for your help! > > BR, > Galadriel