Re: $PRIOR and $MIX for ABCB1 3435 and 2677 data

From: Leonid Gibiansky Date: March 16, 2026 technical Source: mail-archive.com
If prior on CL is 13.8441, why initial value on 0.01 (etc.)? I would start with prior values on all parameters. Also, what is your indented use of TVCL = THETA(1)*(WT/70)**0.75**ABCB Why would ABCB1 affect dependence of WT on CL? I think you need to fit the model with available data first (was it done?) and then start from the solution with fixed population parameters + mixture model and include those with missing info (was it done?), and only if this is working, attempt to combine mixture + priors, starting from the final values of the simpler model. Thank you Leonid
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On 3/15/2026 8:01 PM, Sam Liao wrote: > Try copilot or Gemini to resolve your coding issues. > Sam > > > On 03/15/2026 12:38 PM PDT Mohd Rahimi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I have a rifampicin PK dataset combining sparse and rich sampling data. The dataset includes ABCB1 3435 and 2677 genotype information, but these data are available only for 70 individuals in the sparse- sampling group, while the remaining 46 individuals in the rich- sampling group have missing genotype data. I attempted to use |$PRIOR| and |$MIX| to quantify the effects of ABCB1 3435 and 2677 on the PK parameters of rifampicin, but I am currently encountering a zero- gradient issue. The results are as follows. > > > > 0ITERATION NO.: 2 OBJECTIVE VALUE: 273052.291852277 NO. OF FUNC. EVALS.: 0 > > > > CUMULATIVE NO. OF FUNC. EVALS.: 30 > > > > NPARAMETR: 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 1.0000E-02 > > > > 1.0000E-02 > > > > PARAMETER: 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 1.0000E-01 > > > > 1.0000E-01 > > > > GRADIENT: -3.9851E+04 -1.2262E+04 5.1571E+04 -1.9717E+03 -2.1652E+05 -1.6134E+04 -8.0853E+01 NaN NaN NaN > > > > and the code I am using: > > > > $INPUT ID TIME AMT ODV DV BLQ MDV EVID CMT OCC ABCB11 MISS ABCB12 MDR12 ABCB13 RACE AGE CXR_BASE GENDER WT SMOK > > > > $DATA RIF_NEW_02_PGX03.csv IGNORE=# > > > > $SUBROUTINE ADVAN2 TRANS2 > > $PRIOR NWPRI > > $PK > > > > EST = MIXEST > > > > IF(MISS.EQ.0.AND.ABCB11.LE.2) ABCB = 1 > > IF(MISS.EQ.0.AND.ABCB11.EQ.3) ABCB = 0 > > IF(MISS.EQ.1.AND.MIXNUM.EQ.1) ABCB = 1 > > IF(MISS.EQ.1.AND.MIXNUM.EQ.2) ABCB = 0 > > > > TVCL = THETA(1)*(WT/70)**0.75**ABCB > > TVV = THETA(2)*(WT/70)**1 > > TVKA = THETA(3) > > TVALAG1 = THETA(4) > > > > CL = TVCL*EXP(ETA(1)) > > V = TVV*EXP(ETA(2)) > > KA = TVKA*EXP(ETA(3)) > > ALAG1 = TVALAG1*EXP(ETA(4)) > > > > S2 = V > > > > $MIX > > NSPOP = 2 > > P(1) = THETA(7) > > P(2) = 1-P(1) > > > > $ERROR > > IPRED = LOG(F + 0.000001) > > IRES = DV-IPRED > > W = SQRT(THETA(5)**2 + (THETA(6)/F)**2) > > IF(W.EQ.0) W = 1 > > IWRES = IRES/W > > Y = IPRED + W*EPS(1) > > > > $THETA > > (0,0.01) ; TVCL > > (0,0.01) ; TVV > > (0,0.01) ; TVKA > > (0,0.01) ; ALAG1 > > (0,0.01) ; PROPRUV > > (0,0.01) ; ADDRUV > > (0,0.1) ; P (1) > > ;(0,0.001) ; ABCB > > > > $OMEGA > > 0.01 ; BSVCL (initial estimate) > > 0.01 ; BSVV > > 0.01 ; BSVKA > > 0.01 ; ALAG1 > > > > $SIGMA 1 FIX ; ADDRUV (initial estimate) > > > > $THETAP 13.8441 FIX ; PRIOR OF Cl > > $THETAP 76.3173 FIX ; PRIOR OF Vd > > $THETAP 0.95741 FIX ; PRIOR OF Ka > > ;$THETAP 0.11603 FIX ; PRIOR OF Tlag > > $THETAPV 0.1806 FIX ; PRIOR UNCERTAINTY - Cl > > $THETAPV 0.2489 FIX ; PRIOR UNCERTAINTY - Vd > > $THETAPV 1.2538 FIX ; PRIOR UNCERTAINTY - Ka > > ;$THETAPV 0.1183 FIX ; PRIOR UNCERTAINTY - Tlag > > > > $ESTIMATION METHOD=COND INTER SIGDIGITS=3 MAXEVAL=9999 PRINT=1 NOABORT > > $COVARIANCE MATRIX=R ; COVARIANCE STEP > > > > $TABLE ID TIME DV IPRED CWRES WRES IWRES PRED NOPRINT ONEHEADER > > FILE=sdtab560 > > $TABLE ID TIME DV ETA(1) ETA(2) ETA(3) NOPRINT ONEHEADER > > FILE=patab560 > > > > $TABLE ID TIME AMT ODV DV BLQ MDV EVID CMT OCC ABCB11 MISS ABCB12 MDR12 ABCB13 RACE AGE CXR_BASE GENDER WT SMOK > > > > KA CL V NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=xptab560 > > > > Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as I have been trying to resolve this issue for several weeks. Thank you. > > > > *MOHD. RAHIMI BIN MUDA*
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