Re: [External] Re: Multiple race coding
Thanks Sébastien,
I have seen the guidance. I do not find the guidance compelling. Can we do something meaningful with the information if we find a RACE covariate effect?
I am not even sure how well the RACE categories describe a sociocultural construct. It seems all quite arbitrary to me.
Do we evaluate RACE only because it is in the guidance?
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On 09/12/2025 14:48, Sébastien Bihorel wrote:
> Scientifically no...
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> The FDA guidance ( https://www.fda.gov/media/75453/download < https://www.fda.gov/media/75453/download >) explicitly acknowledges that the "race and ethnicity categories were not anthropologically or scientifically-based designations, but instead were categories that described the sociocultural construct of our society". The categories were devised by the Office of Management and Budget for classification of the US population.
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> While there might be some differences between the categories defined in the guidance due to differences in socio-economical background, risk factors, frequencies of certain genotypes/phenotypes, these self-declared categories are just indirect reflections of much fundamental factors and are quite by definition subjective and imperfect.
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> Just my 2 cents...
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> Just curious, Can anybody explain the, scientific, rationale for using "RACE" as a covariate? Why not eye colour? Thanks in advance, Bart Bart Laurijssens BEL Pharm Consulting 116 Chemin du Moulin d'Ozil 07140 Chambonas France +33 (0)6 85 16
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> Just curious,
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> Can anybody explain the, scientific, rationale for using "RACE" as a covariate? Why not eye colour?
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> Thanks in advance,
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> Bart
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> On 08/12/2025 21:23, Leonid Gibiansky wrote:
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> I've seen it coded as "Multiple" category, and used similar to
> "Other" (i.e., not very helpful)
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> On 12/8/2025 10:39 AM, Paul Hutson wrote:
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> I’ve got a study in which subjects have the option of
> identifying as belonging to more than one race.
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> How are others in this group:
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> 1. Coding this in their data file
> 2. Incorporating this as a possible covariate in their PopPK
> model?
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> Thanks!
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