Re: OFV from different algorithms

From: Dennis Fisher Date: September 23, 2020 technical Source: cognigen.com
Mark I posed a variant of this question to Stu Beal (Sheiner's statistician) > 20 years ago. He answered that one cannot compare ADVAN's, e.g., between ADVAN4 and ADVAN6 for the identical model. I verified this today when I ran a model with those two ADVAN's -- both converged, they yielded quite similar parameter estimates, but the OF differed by 60 units. I will be interested to hear Bob Bauer's reply to this issue. Dennis Dennis Fisher MD P < (The "P Less Than" Company) Phone / Fax: 1-866-PLessThan (1-866-753-7784) www.PLessThan.com http://www.plessthan.com/
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> On Sep 23, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Mark Tepeck <mark.tepeck wrote: > > Hi NMusers, > > I believe below is a very common question, but I could not find a > clear answer in literature. > > Sometimes, we want to find out which algorithm offers the better model > fitting for a given dataset. > > Is it possible to use the objective function value (OFV) to compare > the model fitting computed by various algorithms (e.g. FOCE, IMP, and > SAEM) ? Put it into another way, the same input dataset with the same > fitted model/estimates will lead to similar OFVs among FOCE, IMP, and > SAEM? > > > Thanks, > > > Mark >
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