RE: unbalanced data set

From: Joachim Grevel Date: January 06, 2016 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Dear Zheng, This is indeed a fundamental and recurring problem in drug development. You have rich data from Phase 1 studies (single ascending dose, multiple ascending dose, others e.g. QTc) and sparse data from Phase 3 studies. Should you mix them all in one large meta-analysis and derive the definitive popPK model for that drug/project? After years of experience, I tend to not mix Phase 1 with Phase 3 data. Phase 1 can be used to establish the first popPK model which may contain special features such as nonlinearities/saturation effects as a consequence of the wide range of doses studied. This can be the starting point for the building of a fit-for purpose model using Phase 3 data only. I have come to believe that the specific patient population(s) of Phase 3 require their own popPK model that predicts exposure without bias. This is then used in the exposure-response (E-R) modelling that is important for market approval. Only a dedicated Phase 3 popPK model, that does not carry unnecessary legacies of Phase 1 development, is fit for E-R modelling and can give the important answers about the dose rate(s) to be put in the drug label. I would be interested to hear some other opinions. Good luck, Joachim Joachim Grevel, PhD Scientific Director BAST Inc Limited Science & Enterprise Park Loughborough University Loughborough, LE11 3AQ United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1509 222908 www.bastinc.eu http://www.bastinc.eu/
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zheng Liu Sent: 06 January 2016 02:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] unbalanced data set Dear all, I recently have a data set for pk parameters fitting. The issue is some patients have far more measurement points than others (i.e. a few patients have ~15 points, other patients have only 1 or 2). I speculate in the fitted parameters, those patients with many points would contribute much more than those with less points. Then the population "average" values of fitted pk parameters are not anymore average from all the patients, but more biased to those patients with many points. This is not what I expect. Of course I could take away some points from the patients with many points, in order to be comparable to less-points patients. Then I will be forced to lose some information from the data set. I just wonder are there anyone who have better proposal to solve this problem? I appreciate your help very much! Best regards, Zheng
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