RE: setup of parallel processing and supporting software - help wanted
Mark
a) I have to disagree with you that the efficiency of MPI implementation does
not depend on the size of the
data set for a single desktop SMP machine with multiple processors - larger
data sets mean higher granularity and more cpu-bound work between stoppages for
communication.
This assumes the NLME MPI implementation is done efficiently - I don't know
the details of the NONMEM MPI implementation, particularly those of how
communications are handled.
b) your I/O timings seem horrendously large (if by msec you mean milliseconds)
I/O times of 40 milliseconds per function evaluation (assuming 1 function
evaluation is a single sweep
through all Nsub subjects, evaluating and summing the likelihood contribution
from each subject) seem very high. I have been
running MPI since its original release in 1994 (I was a member of the committee
that designed the first release of MPI during 1992-1994 ) -
these communications timings would seem more appropriate for machines from that
era.
I/O timings for MPI are usually modeled by a latency (startup time - typically
on current SMP single desktop machines on the
order of 1 microsecond) , and a bandwidth (on the order of 10's of
gigabytes/sec for current era SMPs, but much lower for clusters).
Based on the latency/bandwidth model, the conventional wisdom is to manage the
message processing so as to
favor a few large messages as opposed to many small messages to minimize the
latency contribution.
If possible, small messages should be concatenated into larger messages. I
don't know the details of the MPI implementation in NONMEM, but for FOCE-like
NLME algorithms, it is possible to limit the number of messages to just a few
per function evaluation.
If the data set size is expanded by adding more subjects, then more work (more
subjects processed)
will be done between stoppages for communication at the function evaluation
boundaries.
In the MPI implementation for Phoenix NLME, I find it almost impossible to
find a model where I/O dominates to such an
extent that the MPI version runs slower than the single processor version on a
4-processor Intel i7 desktop. For example,
I just tested (FOCE) the classic simple closed form Emax model used in the
INSERM estimation method comparison exercise from 2004
(Girard and Mentre', PAGE 2005, abstract 234) with Phoenix NLME. It would
be hard to find a simpler model -
E=E0 + EMAX*DOSE/(ED50 + DOSE) +EPS, with random effects on each of the three
parameters E0, EMAX, and ED50,
and three observations per subject. If I expand the data set to around 1600
from the original 100 subjects
and run on a four processor i7, the internally reported cpu time is 72 sec for
four processors vs 18 sec for one processor (a speedup of 4).
Wall clock times were a few seconds longer for each run. If I make the data
set smaller, down to the original size of 100,
the speedup clearly suffers a decrease but I still observe a reported cpu time
speedup of 2.5x for the four processors (times are
well under 1 sec, so reliable wall clock times are not available).
(this was done on a relatively old i7 desktop, so more current machines may do
better).
c) It is not always necessary to parallelize over function evaluations (i.e.
over subjects). In importance sampling EM methods, (IMP in NONMEM,
QRPEM in Phoenix NLME), in principle the parallelization can be done over the
sample points used in the monte carlo or quasi-monte carlo integral evaluations
-
there are usually many more of these than processors available. In PHX QRPEM,
we actually do it this way and it works fine. Now all processors are working
on the same subject at the same time, so
load balancing problems tend to go away, but communications overhead increases
since now you have to pass separate messages for
each subject, whereas in FOCE-like algorithms you only have to pass messages
at the end of a sweep through all the subjects.
One thing we have noticed is that QRPEM parallelized this way is much more
reproducible - single processor results almost always
match multiprocessor results exactly, which is not always the case with some of
the FOCE-like methods.
Bob Leary
Fellow, Pharsight Corporation
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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of
Mark Sale [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 7:42 AM
To: Faelens, Ruben (Belgium); Pavel Belo; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NMusers] setup of parallel processing and supporting software -
help wanted
Maybe a little more clarification:
Thanks to Bob for pointing out that the
PARSE_TYPE=2 or 4
option implements some code for load balancing, and there really is no
downside, so should probably always be used.
Contrary to other comments, NONMEM 7.3 (and 7.2) does parallelize the
covariance step. Ruben is correct that the $TABLE step is not parallelize in
7.3.
WRT sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, we can be more specific than
this. The parallelization takes place at the level of the calculation of the
objective function. The data are split up and the OBJ for the subsets of the
data is sent to multiple processes. When all processes are done, the results
are compiled by the manager program. The total round trip time for one
process then is the calculation time + I/O time. Without parallelization,
there is no I/O time. For each parallel process, the I/O time is essentially
fixed (in our benchmarks maybe 20-40 msec per process on a single machine). The
variable of interest then is the calculation time. If the calculation time is
1 msec and the I/O time is 20 msec, if you parallelize to 2 cores, you cut the
calculation time to 0.5 msec, now have 40 msec (2*20 msec) of I/O time, for a
total of 40.5 msec, much slower. If the calculation time is 500 msec, and you
parallelize to 2 cores, the total time is 250 msec (for calculation) + 2*20
msec (for I/O) = 290 msec. If The key parameter then is the time for a single
objective function evaluation (not the total run time). If the time for a
single function evaluation is > 500 msec, parallelization will be helpful (on a
single machine). There really isn't anything very mystical about when it helps
and when it doesn't. The efficiency depends very little on the size of the data
set, except that the limit of parallelization is the number of subjects (the
data set must be split up by subject).
Mark Sale M.D.
Vice President, Modeling and Simulation
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