RE: IIV on res error

From: Bill Denney Date: January 16, 2015 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Hi Yuma, IIV on residual error is effectively compound symmetry. What it is saying is that "some subjects are more variable than others" without suggesting a reason why. Your model below incorporates additive error, and you don't have IIV on F1, so in your case, this ETA on EPS could be one of: * Masking proportional error on PK * Masking dose-related variability in PK if subjects received different doses * Masking IIV on F1 * True compound symmetry where some subjects are more variable than others There are probably other options, but I would check some of those to see if they can improve your model before using ETA on EPS. Thanks, Bill
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Y.A. Bijleveld Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 9:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] IIV on res error Dear all, I am modeling multi-center log-transformed neonatal data and have constructed a 2-compartment model with ETA's on Cl, V1 and V2. However, when introducing interindividual variability on the residual error the MOFV drops >150 points, while previously significant relationships between clearance and covariates disappear. I find it strange that the introduction of the IIV has such an impact and don't fully understand. I have already checked the data for (extreme) outliers. Can anyone shed some light? Thank you so much. Yuma Bijleveld. $PK F1=(BIO1**FDS12) * (BIO2**FDS34) TVV1=THETA(1)*(WT/70000) V1=TVV1*EXP(ETA(1)) TVCL=THETA(2)*(WT/70000)**0.75*(GA/281)**THETA(6) CL=TVCL*EXP(ETA(2)) TVQ=THETA(4)*(WT/70000)**0.75 Q=TVQ TVV2=THETA(5)*(WT/70000) V2=TVV2*EXP(ETA(3)) S1=V1 $ERROR IPRED=LOG(0.0001) IF(F.GT.0)IPRED=LOG(F) IRES = DV-IPRED W=1 IF(F.GT.0)W = SQRT(THETA(3)**2) IWRES = IRES/W Y = IPRED+W*EPS(1)*EXP(ETA(4)) $THETA (0, 75.7) ;1 V1 (0, 2.09) ;2 CL (0, 0.376) ;3 add (0, 3) ;4 Q (0, 31.8) ;5 V2 (0, 3.3) ;6 GA $OMEGA BLOCK(2) 0.167 ;1 V1 0.0824 0.12 ;2 Cl $OMEGA 0.1 ;3 V2 $OMEGA 0.1 ;4 RES $SIGMA 1 FIX ________________________________ AMC Disclaimer : http://www.amc.nl/disclaimer ________________________________
Jan 16, 2015 Y.a. Bijleveld IIV on res error
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