Re: Steady state dose

From: Nick Holford Date: October 17, 2011 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Joanna, I don't know of any way to request a positive SS solution. However I wonder if the problem is related to the way you use the SS data item in the code. HIV = SS*THETA(9)*EXP(ETA(9)) Usually there is just one record with SS=1 at the start of each subject's records. If this is the case then the value of HIV will be zero at all times after the SS=1 record. Does this make sense for your model? I am not even sure that SS would have the value of 1 during the calculation of the steady state solution -- although that would be a reasonable assumption that could be confirmed by someone such as Alison Boeckmann. Nick PS NONMEM calculates steady state amounts in compartments -- it does not calculate steady state doses.
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On 15/10/2011 3:07 a.m., Joanna Lewis wrote: > Dear NONMEM users, > > I have a question about NONMEM's calculation of steady-state doses. > > I am trying to model a system with two compartments. I want my t=0 boundary condition to be that the system is at steady-state, with a rate of cell death/clearance from one of the compartments which is higher than for all t>0. Unfortunately, I don't think there is an analytic solution for this steady state (see code copied below). > > From an old NMusers thread ( http://www.mail-archive.com/ [email protected] /msg00584.html ), I found out that NONMEM will find the steady state if you give it SS=1, RATE=0, AMT=0 in a t=0 record in the data file. When I tried this though, NONMEM found the wrong root of the steady-state equation (a negative one). Do you know if there is a way of making sure the steady state it finds is the positive one? For the moment, I have been initialising the compartments near to the steady state and at t=-(a lot), and letting them equilibrate, but I think this is slowing down my runs and would prefer to use another method. > > Thank you very much in advance for any advice you can offer. > Joanna Lewis > > PhD student > UCL Institute for Child Health > 30 Guilford Street, London WC1N 1EH > > $PROBLEM hapuarachchi0_15sep_1 > $INPUT ID BAGE AGE WEEK TIME CD DV AMT RATE SS TYPE CMT IG > $DATA data.csv IGNORE=@ > > $SUBROUTINE ADVAN6 TOL=5 > > $MODEL > COMP=(X) > COMP=(Y) > > $PK > ANO = THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) > EP = THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) > DEO = THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) > SIG = THETA(4)*EXP(ETA(4)) > SCA = THETA(5)*EXP(ETA(5)) > Q = THETA(6)*EXP(ETA(6)) > > THE = THETA(7)*EXP(ETA(7)) > RHO = THETA(8)*EXP(ETA(8)) > > HIV = SS*THETA(9)*EXP(ETA(9)) > > $DES > > ALP = ANO*EXP(-EP*SCA*A(1)) > DEL = DEO*EXP(SIG*SCA*A(1)) > MU = Q*A(2) + HIV > > DADT(1) = THE + 2*RHO*A(2) - ALP*A(1) - DEL*A(1) > DADT(2) = ALP*A(1) - RHO*A(2) - MU*A(2) > > $ERROR > IPCD = A(1)+A(2) > > Y = IPCD + IPCD*EPS(1) > > $THETA > > ...etc.. > > $OMEGA > > ...etc... > > $SIGMA > > ...etc... > > $ESTIMATION MAXEVAL=0 METHOD=1 INTER SIGDIG=1 PRINT=1 > > $TABLE > > ...etc... -- Nick Holford, Professor Clinical Pharmacology Dept Pharmacology& Clinical Pharmacology University of Auckland,85 Park Rd,Private Bag 92019,Auckland,New Zealand tel:+64(9)923-6730 fax:+64(9)373-7090 mobile:+64(21)46 23 53 email: [email protected] http://www.fmhs.auckland.ac.nz/sms/pharmacology/holford
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