Re: PRIOR method without covariance matrix of estimates?

From: Leonid Gibiansky Date: October 14, 2011 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Nele, Nonmem 7.2 has UNCONDITIONAL option in cov step that would compute SEs even for problems with error in minimization. Also, it is perfectly OK to have variance-covariance computed from bootstrap; some may even argue that it is better than use Nonmem cov matrix. And finally (just an opinion) I would rather combine the data than use priors. Thanks Leonid -------------------------------------- Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D. President, QuantPharm LLC web: www.quantpharm.com e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com tel: (301) 767 5566
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On 10/13/2011 1:31 AM, Kaessner, Nele wrote: > Dear all, > > I am currently in a planning phase for a PopPK evaluation for an > upcoming study. I have already developed a PopPK model for this > compound, and the idea would now be to fit the available model to the > new data. One idea was to do this via the PRIOR functionality in NONMEM, > so that I do not have to mix the old data into the new data set. So now > I wanted to test the performance of this approach via simulations, and > have the following problem: > > My previously developed final model did not converge successfully > (terminated with rounding errors), so I do not have a covariance matrix > of estimates to describe the uncertainty in the THETAs. However I > obtained confidence intervals from a nonparametric bootstrap, and I was > wondering if these results can somehow be used instead for the prior > information. > > In some internal discussions we had the idea to just use all the > parameter estimates from the performed 1000 bootstrap runs, and just > calculate variance and covariance of THETAs from these. > > I would highly appreciate your comments on the validity of such an > approach, or suggestions of other alternatives. > > Thanks and best regards > > Nele > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Dr. Nele Käßner > > PK/PD Sciences > > Modelling and Simulation (RDP/MS) > > *Nycomed: A Takeda Company* > > Nycomed GmbH > > Byk-Gulden-Str. 2 > > D-78467 Konstanz, Germany > > Fon: (+49) 7531 / 84 - 4759 > > Fax: (+49) 7531 / 84 - 94759 > > mailto: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://www.nycomed.com http://www.nycomed.com/ > > County Court: Freiburg, Commercial Register HRB 701257 > > Chairman Supervisory Board: Charles Depasse (Speaker) > > Management Board: Gilbert Rademacher (Speaker), > Konstantin von Alvensleben, Dr. Rainer Wiartalla > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The content of this email and of any files transmitted may contain > confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is > intended solely for the use of the person/s or entity/ies to whom it is > addressed. If you have received this email in error you have no > permission whatsoever to use, copy, disclose or forward all or any of > its contents. Please immediately notify the sender and thereafter delete > this email and any attachments. > >
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