AW: Modeling Cmin and Tmin

Dear Joachim, thank you for your explanations. My plan was not to determine the typical value or distribution for this parameters (as THETA or ETA) but to determine the minimum biomarker concentration for each ID with the appropriate time for further correlation studies with outcome etc. I tried to use NONMEM to determine Cmin while individual parameters/profiles are estimated. I read something in NMusers about Cmax and thought that this is maybe also possible for Cmin and Tmin http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/current/2008-January/0733.html http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/current/2008-January/0733.html http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/current/2007-December/0716.html If this is not possible I would try this using simulations and R Thanks King regards, Friederike Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Joachim Grevel Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. April 2011 11:49 An: Friederike Kanefendt; [email protected] Betreff: RE: [NMusers] Modeling Cmin and Tmin Dear Friederike, Please, step back for one minute and try to understand what you want to find out: You are applying a nonlinear mixed-effects modelling program to obtain parameter values for your model. All parameters in your model are random variables. Some have a mean of zero (ETAs, EPSs) some should have a mean <> 0 (THETAs). Your results are not point estimates but distributions. Therefore you should approach the question of Cmin and Tmin through simulation and report the confidence interval (or other stats) for your parameters of interest. Thus construct a simulation data set with dense time points around the expected Tmin, and run $SIMULATION (240311) ONLYSIMULATION SUBPROBLEMS=1000 $TABLE ID TIME ...... NOHEADER NOAPPEND NOPRINT FILE=xxxx.tab with all your final parameter estimates as initial values in your control file. Then analyse your 100 (or 1000) simulated data files with R or SAS and report the distribution of the Cmin and Tmin you found. Please, come back with more questions in case I have confused you, Joachim Joachim Grevel, PhD Scientific Director BAST Inc Limited BioCity Nottingham Pennyfoot Street Nottingham, NG1 1GF Tel: +44 (0)115 8120497