RE: Unexpected differences in predictions between NM 6.2.0 and NM 7.1.2

From: Martin Bergstrand Date: May 14, 2010 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Dear Sebastien, I can't answer your primary question but I want to make a correction on the way that I specified the residual error model when using it (see updated code below). Your implementation will in my opinion cause bias since it will make all residuals positive (-x*-x = x^2). The reason that I used this model for simulations was to avoid the problems with the estimation error model, i.e. [W = SQRT(W1**2+(W2/F)**2]. These problems have been mentioned before at NMusers ( http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02445.html). The error model that you are referring wasn't used for estimation since it depends on tree parameters (W1,W2 and WH) and these are in most cases not all identifiable. I didn't get this error model out of the literature (haven't seen it described), it was simply my own solution to the problems I was experiencing. ;; --- Altered error model code --------- IPRED=LOG(F+DFLG) W1=THETA(5) W2=THETA(6) WH=THETA(7) ; Equal to 0.5 in examples out of the publication) W=SQRT(W1*W1+(W2*(1-F/(WH+F)))**2) Y=IPRED+W*EPS(1) $SIMGA 1 FIX ;; -------------------------------------- Best regards, Martin Bergstrand, MSc, PhD student ----------------------------------------------- Pharmacometrics Research Group, Department of Pharmaceutical Biosciences, Uppsala University ----------------------------------------------- [email protected] ----------------------------------------------- Work: +46 18 471 4639 Mobile: +46 709 994 396
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sebastien Bihorel Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:06 PM To: nmusers; Martin Bergstrand Subject: [NMusers] Unexpected differences in predictions between NM 6.2.0 and NM 7.1.2 Dear R-users, I have recently observed a very puzzling difference of behavior between NM 6.2.0 and NM 7.1.2, while trying to reproduce the simulation examples described in Martin Bergstrand's paper 'Handling data below the limit of quantification in mixed effect models' (AAPS Journal 2009, 11-2). My model corresponds to Martins' model B (2-cmt linear model with single IV dosing) and implement my interpretation of the residual variability described in his equation 3 (see code below). When I run the code in NONMEM 7.1.2,, all the PRED values are reported as NaN and RES values either as NaN or 0. NM6 returns non-NaN values for PRED and RES, but there does not seem to be any differences in simulated DV. Did anybody experienced the same differences? In my case, could they be explained by an improper implementation of the RV model? As a side note, I would also be interested to know if a reference in the literature would describe the properties of this particular RUV model. Thank you Sebastien Bihorel -------- $PROBLEM base-2cmt-sim $DATA basedata.csv IGNORE=@ $INPUT ID TIME AMT RATE CMT EVID DV MDV STDY $THETA (0.,5.) ;1- clearance (0.,20.) ;2- central compartment volume (0.,5.) ;3- distribution clearance (0.,100.) ;4- peripheral compartment volume (0.,0.1) ;5- 'additive' log RV (0.,0.1) ;6- 'second' log RV term $OMEGA 0.3 ;1- IIV in clearance 0.3 ;2- IIV in central compartment volume 0.3 ;3- IIV in distribution clearance 0.3 ;4- IIV in peripheral compartment volume $SIGMA 1 FIX ;1- 'additive' log RV 1 FIX ;2- 'second' log RV term $SUBROUTINES ADVAN3 TRANS4 $PK ; Model parameter assignment TVCL=THETA(1) TVV1=THETA(2) TVQ =THETA(3) TVV2=THETA(4) ECL=EXP(ETA(1)) EV1=EXP(ETA(2)) EQ =EXP(ETA(3)) EV2=EXP(ETA(4)) ; PREDPP required variables F1=1.0 ; bioavailability in central compartment CL=TVCL*ECL ; elimination clearance V1=TVV1*EV1 ; volume of the central compartment Q =TVQ*EQ ; inter-compartment distribution clearance V2=TVV2*EV2 ; volume of the peripheral compartment S1=V1 $ERROR ;set up Dose flag DFLG=0 IF(AMT.GT.0)DFLG=1 IPRED=LOG(F+DFLG) W1=THETA(5)*EPS(1) W2=THETA(6)*EPS(2) W=SQRT(W1*W1+(W2*(1-F/(0.5+F)))**2) Y=IPRED+W $SIM (123456) ONLYSIM $TABLE ID TIME AMT RATE CMT EVID DV MDV STDY W NOPRINT ONEHEADER FILE=base-2cmt-sim.tbl
May 13, 2010 Sebastien Bihorel Unexpected differences in predictions between NM 6.2.0 and NM 7.1.2
May 14, 2010 Martin Bergstrand RE: Unexpected differences in predictions between NM 6.2.0 and NM 7.1.2
May 14, 2010 Sebastien Bihorel Re: Unexpected differences in predictions between NM 6.2.0 and NM 7.1.2