RE: Honest measurements
Mats
I agree with Nick. Negative "observed" concns do occur for assays, even in my
limited time working with HPLC I have seen them, however due to LOD/LOQ they
are never really looked for and certainly never reported...
Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Nick Holford
> Sent: Monday, 24 August 2009 6:25 p.m.
> To: nmusers
> Subject: [NMusers] Honest measurements
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>
> Mats Karlsson wrote:
>
> << Chemists, however pushed, would never report negative
> concentrations, not
> for past studies, not for future studies. The methods they use don't
> even
> report them.>>
>
> I am working with a chemist using LC/MS who has been persuaded to look
> honestly at his data without preconceived ideas of limits of
> quantitation and detection. Indeed when he opened his eyes he found
> that his system was indeed giving negative concentration measurements
> (at times when concentrations were expected to be very low).
>
> Of course we must do other things when the data is censored by bad
> scientific practice in the chemist's lab but with honest measurments an
> additive residual error model is required.
>
> Nick
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