RE: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics

From: Samer Mouksassi Date: August 07, 2009 technical Source: mail-archive.com
>From NONMEM help it seems that there is a NOABORTFIRST option but I never used it: $THETA value1 [value2] [value3] ... [NUMBERPOINTS=n] [ABORT|NOABORT|NOABORTFIRST] Otherwise you can change your initial estimates appropriately so the first iteration starts! Samer Samer Mouksassi Pharm.D. Senior Associate Scientist Pharsight- A Certara(tm) Company 2000 Peel, Suite 570 Montreal, Quebec, Canada H3A 2W5 The information contained in this electronic mail message (including any attachments) is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone and/or e-mail ([email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ) and destroy any and all copies of this message in your possession (whether hardcopies or electronically stored copies). Thank you.
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________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paolo Denti Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NMusers] Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics Dear NMUsers, having to deal with the flip-flop kinetics phenomenon, I had a look at previous posts on the NMusers list. I found this post particularly enlightening: http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/nm/99aug072003.html Some code was proposed to avoid the flip-flop at population and individual level. Here's a not-so-brief summary. This parameterization solves the issue at population level: CL=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) V=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) TVKE=THETA(1)/THETA(2) TVKA=TVKE+THETA(3) KA=TVKA*EXP(ETA(3)) However, it does not prevent the phenomenon occurring at individual level. Vlamidir Piotrovsky proposed the code below, which does solve the problem at individual level, but makes the interpretation of the results a bit awkward and introduces correlation among the model parameters. In particular, variance of ETA3 was greatly increased. CL=THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) V=THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) KE=CL/V KA=KE+THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) Another approach, suggested by Nick Holford, implements error recovery using EXIT 1. The code is reported below: CL=THETA(cl)*EXP(ETA(cl)) V=THETA(v)*EXP(ETA(v)) KA=THETA(ka)*EXP(ETA(ka)) K=CL/V IF (KA.LE.K) EXIT 1 101 ; try again (PREDERR message error code 101) As far as I understand, this interrupts the computation whenever the flip-flop occurs and lets NONMEM restart. However, if such an error arises at initialization, NONMEM does not recover and the run goes no further. Nick probably experienced something similar, but apparently received no answer http://www.cognigencorp.com/nonmem/nm/99oct072004.html Does anyone know of a way around this drawback? Or have other code to deal with flip-flop kinetics? Thank you in advance, Paolo -- ------------------------------------------------ Paolo Denti, Post-Doctoral Fellow Division of Clinical Pharmacology Department of Medicine University of Cape Town K45 Old Main Building Groote Schuur Hospital Observatory, Cape Town 7925 South Africa phone: +27 21 404 7719 fax: +27 21 448 1989 email: [email protected]
Aug 07, 2009 Paolo Denti Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 07, 2009 Samer Mouksassi RE: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 07, 2009 Leonid Gibiansky Re: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 07, 2009 Nick Holford Re: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 10, 2009 Jurgen Bulitta RE: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 10, 2009 Leonid Gibiansky Re: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 11, 2009 Jurgen Bulitta RE: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 11, 2009 Leonid Gibiansky Re: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics
Aug 12, 2009 Paolo Denti Re: Code to avoid flip-flop kinetics