Re: VPC, NPC or PPC?

From: Leonid Gibiansky Date: February 25, 2009 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Nicolas I do not know your design, but usually, when you have as many doses as patients, it means that the dose is individualized and controlled by the PK or by the PD effect (e.g., dose up to certain concentration level or up to a certain sedation level). In this case, one has to be careful with any type of predictive check unless your simulation algorithm includes the dose-adjustment scheme used in the actual study. If simulations do not include the same dose adjustment algorithm as the actual study, you may have apparent discrepancy of your simulation results and observed data even if the model is perfect. On the other hand, if indeed the trial was concentration or effect controlled, you may include the same dose adjustment scheme into the simulations, and then use VPC for the entire study. If you provide more details of the design, it would be easier to come up with some reasonable VPC algorithm. PPC can be conducted using nonmem PRIOR subroutine (see Nonmem manual) with priors for population parameters fixed at final estimates, and variability of the population parameters fixed at SE of the final model. Thanks Leonid -------------------------------------- Leonid Gibiansky, Ph.D. President, QuantPharm LLC web: www.quantpharm.com e-mail: LGibiansky at quantpharm.com tel: (301) 767 5566 SIMON Nicolas wrote: > Hi All, > > We have a dataset with as many dosing (amount and length of infusion) as patients. Once the final model was defined, I have performed a vpc. However, because the dosing are very different between patients, is it relevant to perform vpc or shall we compute npc or ppc? > > Can somebody explain the basic difference between vpc, npc and ppc and when shall we used one or the other? > > Last point, how to obtain ppc? > > Best regards > > Nicolas > > Professeur à la Faculté de Médecine de Marseille > > Laboratoire de Pharmacologie Médicale et Clinique > > 27 Bd Jean Moulin > > 13385 Marseille cedex > > Tél 0491387893 (Hôpital) > > Tél 0491324456 (Faculté) > > Fax 0491256526
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