Re: higher AUC after bolus compared to infusion?

From: Malaz Abutarif Date: December 04, 2008 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Dear, This can most likely be described by a model of non-instantaneous and potentially irreversible binding kinetics to the intracellular proteins/structures. With bolus, you see the drug in plasma (hence higher AUC) before it binds to the internal proteins irreversably. With infusions, more of the drug has time to bind irreversably to the internal structures, which is a tissue clearance (higher apparent clearance with infusions leading to lower AUC). At higher doses, you may saturate the proteins/internal structures and you no longer have that tissue clearance. And after a certain dose level, you will likely see more linear kinetics. I've done some research on that some time ago (modeled the non-instantaneous kinetics and measured them experimentally, then simulated a clinical profile where these non-instantaneous kinetics of protein binding played a role in the kinetics of the drug), a small part of the work was published but the remainder has not been published yet (I'm about 7 years late on writing that paper). Malaz A AbuTarif, Ph.D., M.B.A. Schering-Plough Kenilworth, NJ
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On 12/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I have trouble modeling some rat PK data obtained after intravenous > dosing. I have dense data for two different doses, given either as bolus, > half-hour or 3-hour infusion. We know that the compound has a large > binding affinity to intracellular structures and therefore has a high > volume of distribution (~100L/kg in rats). However, what we observed in > the mentioned study is that the AUC after bolus dosing is ~3 times higher > than after infusions (no difference between 0.5 and 3 h), and this was > observed for both dose groups (effect a bit less pronounced for high dose, > but still there). Noncompartmental analysis indicates that this is due to > lower clearance and not a change in Vss. At the moment I have no idea what > kind of model would capture an observation like this. Has anybody ever > observed something like this, and even better, have some ideas on model > coding? Any ideas would be welcome! > > Best regards > Nele > _________________________________________ > > Bayer Schering Pharma AG > Development Pharmacokinetics > Berlin, S109, 03, 306A > Phone: +49 30 468-15146 > Fax: +49 30 468-11527 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: http://www.bayerscheringpharma.de > > Vorstand: Andreas Fibig, Vorsitzender | Werner Baumann, Andreas Busch, > Ulrich Köstlin, Kemal Malik, Bernd Metzner, Gunnar Riemann > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Werner Wenning > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin | Eintragung: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB > 283 B > >
Dec 04, 2008 Nele Mueller-Plock higher AUC after bolus compared to infusion?
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