RE: Joint model fitting to data on separate enantiomers and enantiomeric mixtures

From: Johan Rosenborg Date: June 24, 2008 technical Source: mail-archive.com
Mark, Thank you very much for your suggestion, we pursued similarly adapted for our purposes. Two-compartment models were fitted to the separate stereoisomers. The total concentration was modelled as the sum the differentials for central and peripheral compartments of the separate stereoisomers. Note that three different doses must be given in the data set, one for each stereoisomer and one for the sum. / Johan
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-----Original Message----- From: Penney, Mark S Sent: 19 juni 2008 13:43 To: Rosenborg, Johan Subject: RE: [NMusers] Joint model fitting to data on separate enantiomers and enantiomeric mixtures Dear Johan, I've used the attached control stream (and data file) to estimate parameters for a not too disimilar situation. The model is of the drug (antibody - 2 compartments) and its target ligand. We measure two things, the free antibody and the so-called total ligand, which is the summation of the free ligand and that bound to the antibody. This is measured by an ELISA where the capture antibody recognises an epitope that is remains available after binding with the therapeutic antibody. I use an IF statement in the $ERROR block to pick what was measured based on the value of CMT in the data file. The aim of the run is to pick up the kinetics of the ligand, which turns over quite quickly in comparison to the slowly-cleared antibody. I had a mixture of i.v. and sub-cut administration too. I used ADVAN8 because it was the only one that could apparently solve the problem. I had a lot trouble getting NONMEM to run this, hence the simplifying of all the ETAs fixed to 0.0 and the assumption of the same error for the two assays. Got what I needed though. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rosenborg, Johan Sent: 18 June 2008 15:28 To: [email protected] Cc: Johansson, Anna X Subject: [NMusers] Joint model fitting to data on separate enantiomers and enantiomeric mixtures All, We have a data set comprising three measurements per time point, namely the separate R- and S-concentrations and the total concentration (R+S) of a chiral drug given as the racemic mixture. We would like to fit a model to all data simultaneously. The plan is to estimate one set of parameters for the S- enantiomer and one set for the R- enantiomer, using the sum of S- and R concentrations to predict R+S; defining CMTs 1, 3, and 5 as observational compartments for R-, S-, and RS, respectively, we would like to model A(5)=A(1)+A(3). Any suggestion on how to do proceed with this in ADVAN5 or ADVAN6 would be appreciated! / Johan and Anna
Jun 18, 2008 Johan Rosenborg Joint model fitting to data on separate enantiomers and enantiomeric mixtures
Jun 24, 2008 Martin Bergstrand RE: Joint model fitting to data on separate enantiomers and enantiomeric mixtures
Jun 24, 2008 Johan Rosenborg RE: Joint model fitting to data on separate enantiomers and enantiomeric mixtures