2-compartment model: V2 doesn't vary

From: Stefan Wilde Date: September 28, 2001 technical Source: cognigencorp.com
From: "Stefan Wilde" <stefanwilde@hotmail.com> Subject: 2-compartment model: V2 doesn't vary Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:41:46 +0200 Dear nonmem users, I'm analysing a dataset in a sparse data situation: 30 subjects, 3 visits per subject, 3 samples per visit (1st: 5-200 min post infusion, 2nd sample 60 min. later, 3rd sample approx. 16h p.i.) 2 different drugs are studied, both of them known to follow 2-compartment kinetics. Analysing these data with NONMEM (NMTran, Advan3, Trans4) gives reasonable estimates for all kinetic parameters and for variability of all parameters but V2. The peripheral Vd doesn't vary beetwen subjects (Est. of eta = 1EXP-11). Even when fixing intercompartment clearance V2 doesn't vary. Estimating 2-compartment kinetics of the 2nd drug given (slightly different post-infusion times) the results are the same: no variability of V2. We are quite concerned about these findigs that don't sound reasonable to us. Any explanations or suggestions of how to solve this problem are appreciated. Below you find excerpts of the nonmem control stream and the dataset. Thanks in advance, Stefan Control stream excerpt: $INPUT ID CY TIME AMT RATE DV MDV EVID $SUBROUTINE ADVAN=ADVAN3 TRANS=TRANS4 $PK CALLFL=1 CL = THETA(1)*EXP(ETA(1)) V1 = THETA(2)*EXP(ETA(2)) Q = THETA(3)*EXP(ETA(3)) V2 = THETA(4)*EXP(ETA(4)) S1 = V1/1000 $ERROR Y = F*(1+ERR(1)) ;Multiplikatives Modell $THETA (0,1.3,10000) (0,30,10000) (0,.9,10000) (0,500,10000) $OMEGA DIAGONAL(4) .01 .1 .1 .01 $SIGMA .8 $ESTIMATION METHOD=COND NOABORT PRINT=5 MAXEVAL=9999 SIGDIGIT=7 Dataset excerpt: ID Cycle Time Amt Rate DV MDV EVID 3 1 0 50 3.33333 0 1 4 3 1 15 0 0 0 1 0 3 1 130 0 0 8.41 0 0 3 1 345 0 0 6.98 0 0 3 1 1195 0 0 3.88 0 0 3 2 0 50 2.5 0 1 4 3 2 20 0 0 0 1 0 3 2 150 0 0 8.1 0 0 3 2 990 0 0 4.02 0 0 3 3 0 50 0.625 0 1 4 3 3 80 0 0 0 1 0 3 3 95 0 0 12.3 0 0 3 3 405 0 0 6.59 0 0 3 3 1245 0 0 4.59 0 0 9 1 0 48 1.29729 0 1 4 9 1 37 0 0 0 1 0 9 1 41 0 0 222 0 0 9 1 165 0 0 6.89 0 0 9 1 1277 0 0 2.24 0 0 -- Stefan Wilde Institute of Pharmacology Clinical Pharmacology University of Cologne Germany
Sep 28, 2001 Stefan Wilde 2-compartment model: V2 doesn't vary
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