re: fast and slow absorption
From MAJ_Ralf_Brueckner@wrsmtp-ccmail.army.mil Thu May 11 09:50:46 1995
Subject: re: fast and slow absorption
Many thanks to the NONMEM users who responded to my question regarding modeling fast and slow absorption. In response to Dr. Sheiner's question, here is a representation of what I based my "problem" on.
>Before TIME=tka, NONMEM/PREDPP (correctly) calculates predicted drug
>amount in COMP 1 (PRED) using rapid KA. But at TIME=tka,
>NONMEM/PREDPP suddenly starts calculating PRED as if slow KA had been
>used *since time=0*.
|*
|*
A |* + x = DV
m | * + + = PRED
o | * + * = overlapping
u | * + (DV=PRED)
n | x x +
t | xxx +
| xxxx +
| xxxxxxx
| + xxxxxxx
| ++++
| +++++++
----------------------------------
^ time
|
tka
Dr. Sheiner and Alison Boeckmann were correct when they suggested that the problem was in the data (I should have known better!). The data was obtained from a rat study using destructive sampling. And as suggested by Alison,
>I think that Brueckner's problem may lie partly in his data file. If
>he has only event records at time 0 (the dose) and time > tka, the
>$PK block computes KA ONLY at time > tka, and so this value of KA is
>in effect for the entire integration.
That was what had happened. When I reanalyzed the data using the pooled data approach, the "problem" went away and I was able to estimate both KA's.
Thanks also to Dr.s Mandema, Grevel and Sheiner for useful models and discussion re: modeling absorption processes. I am most appreciative of this NONMEM Users Network!
Ralf Brueckner